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请教各位大侠，我是石油专业的高工，想去卡尔加里，如何能获得省提名呢，是不是省提名的速度就比较快了，谢谢！

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2011.07登陆多伦多,石油专业。回复: 请教：如何获得省提名省提名一般是指商业移民吧？

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2007.07.09 FN VO:SKM　　小鸡长大了就变成了鹅；鹅长大了，就变成了羊；羊再长大了，就变成了牛；等牛长大了，Visa就到了。Man proposes, God disposes.回复: 请教：如何获得省提名省提名是比较快，可是也有诸多限制和一些对对象的评估，建议你还是找个顾问仔细研究下。

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双手劳动 慰藉心灵回复: 请教：如何获得省提名谢谢了，我本来是打算DIY的，但在官方网站上查了很久，也不是太清楚，好象是由Employer来申请，可是不知如何把简历放在job seeker上

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2011.07登陆多伦多,石油专业。回复: 请教：如何获得省提名Frustrated immigrants from Iran to China, from the Netherlands to the Philippines, told their unique stories publicly Wednesday, but all had a common message — they’d like some of their money back.Philippine lawyer Elvin Reyes said that he had a "whirlwind romance" with Nova Scotia when he first visited in October 2005 and he and his wife knew they wanted to bring their five children here.He paid the $130,500 fee under the economic category of the province’s immigration program. The category offered people at least a six-month placement or mentorship with a Nova Scotia business, at a salary of at least $20,000.Mr. Reyes said he didn’t find an ideal match and ended up with a Dartmouth printing company.Despite that, he was thankful the program allowed him to come to Nova Scotia. But the good feelings for the province changed in October, when he heard that the Office of Immigration was offering $100,000 refunds to people who hadn’t yet signed a mentorship contract."For the very first time, I felt betrayed by my host province. I felt really bad and I felt cheated, just to put it bluntly," said Mr. Reyes, who now runs the Manila Pastry Co. on the Bedford Highway."Would it have been better if I just sat at home and did nothing regarding my mentorship? Why was I penalized for complying with the mentorship program? Would I have been better off if I ignored the rules on mentorship?"Mr. Reyes was one of about a dozen people who told the legislature’s public accounts committee about the program’s problems over the course of almost four hours Wednesday.The announcement of the refund option — available to about 600 of 800 immigrants under the economic category — put the entire mentorship program under a microscope. Many immigrants went public with their stories of not getting the business experience they were promised, and some said the business they were placed with told them to stay home.Opposition critics have skewered the government for the program’s problems and for giving an untendered contract to Cornwallis Financial Corp. to administer it. The deputy immigration minister revealed in the fall that bureaucrats went ahead with the contract in December 2002 despite a cabinet order to tender it.Vahid Kermanshah told the committee he had managed a Tehran department store that employed 600 people. But his mentorship in Nova Scotia was with a Shag Harbour fish company that didn’t even have a computer for him.He said his boss ended up telling him to stay home, though the company paid him anyway. Mr. Kermanshah said he didn’t get the experience he was promised and now feels abused by the immigration process."All the nominees have immigrated to Nova Scotia through the same category and should be benefited and treated equally and fairly," he said.Ali Reza Aghajan, a psychiatrist from Iran, told the committee he arranged a mentorship at Dalhousie University, but Immigration officials told him the placement had to be at a business.He ended up going to a construction company where he said he spent his time studying for Canadian medical tests.Another immigrant, John Huang from China, did his placement at the Atlantic Institute for Market Studies, a think-tank. He said people like him who did their mentorships are actually in the province and should get the benefit of the refund.Scotsman Ian Russell, who didn’t go through the program, called the fee immoral. But he said in hindsight, he should have paid it to speed up the immigration process."This was just simply a fast way of getting into Nova Scotia, irrespective of what your qualifications were," he said. The program could shave several years off the process of coming to the province.Annemarie Stigter, who came with her husband and five sons to Kentville from Holland, said provincial Immigration officials they dealt with didn’t even find out if her husband, the nominee, could speak the level of basic English the program required. He couldn’t."It was rather a monologue than it was a dialogue," she said.Ken Friedman, a consultant who represents about 72 disgruntled nominees, said the group has proposed that the money for their refunds come from immigrants who forfeited their fees, not from taxpayers.Of the $130,500 most immigrants paid, $10,000 went to Cornwallis, $20,000 went to the immigration consultant or lawyer who helped the immigrant, $500 went to the province and $100,000 went for the mentorship. Of that, the business was supposed to pay the immigrant at least $20,000 and it could receive up to $80,000.The mentorship fees of those who didn’t get a placement are in a trust fund, which now sits at about $75 million. Auditor General Jacques Lapointe is now investigating the fund.So far, hundreds of immigrants who paid the fee aren’t in the province, as far as the Office of Immigration knows. Mr. Russell said there were people who "truly didn’t care whether they lost $130,000, as long as they were able to come to Canada."It’s the money from those people that could be used for refunds, Liberal immigration critic Diana Whalen said. She and Mr. Friedman said the refund amount should be the difference between $100,000 and what an immigrant got in salary.For example, an immigrant who made $20,000 during the mentorship would get $80,000.The New Democrats also support a refund to immigrants.Immigration Minister Len Goucher has so far resisted. He has said the immigrants who signed a contract with an employer knew what they were getting into.Mr. Goucher wasn’t available for comment Wednesday. Pictou Centre MLA Pat Dunn, a Tory on the public accounts committee, said the government needs more information about individual cases.Elizabeth Mills, executive director of the Office of Immigration, said the office is waiting to see Mr. Lapointe’s findings. She said that before using other immigrants’ money for refunds, they would have to be contacted to confirm they aren’t coming to Nova Scotia.Ms. Mills, who wasn’t able to be at the meeting, said the program attracted an excellent calibre of people."I care about each and every one of them. I feel badly that they feel unfairly treated."来加拿大要有心理承受能力，看看上面的新闻，顺便提高一下外语

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回复: 请教：如何获得省提名关于上面新闻的评论，顺便在提高一下外语kpainter wrote:It stinks. Everyone but the immigrant was guaranteed a windfall on this. If the figures quoted in the article are correct, the employer got $80,000 and a paid employee. On the other hand as one immigrant stated the immigrants did get fast tracked. Why did the mentorship program not allow immigrants to mentor in their chosen fields? If any compensation/refund is paid out, most if not all of it should come from the companies that got the windfall. Also whoever came up with this idea and well as the person(s) who approved it should get sacked (if still with the government) and publicly renounced. black pearl wrote:I fail to understand just what it is these people are complaining about! Sure, their job training didn't deliver what they had hoped or expected, but they have the chance to remain in Canada. Are they not still better off than their fellow (poor) countrymen back in Iran, the Philippines, or wherever? The bottom line is, they paid their way into Canada, and basically jumped the queue by having their applications approved much faster than others who don't have deep pockets. They should have done some basic homework by researching the job market here, anyone in the world can do this if they have internet access. These disgruntled immigrants expect to have their cake and eat it too. They have the chance to stay in Canada, but they still want a refund after buying their way in. The Canadian or Nova Scotia can't guarantee a job to people who have lived here all their lives, but this group of immigrants expect more than what is available to life-long residents! If they are unhappy, they can sue the government to get their money back. Miles wrote:Atlantic Institute of Market Studies...can you believe it....an anti government think tank with both feet firmly placed in the trough. ..ahh the old saying ...government should stay out of business...unless off course if business needs government ooriesmith wrote:I have listened to the news reports on this issue and am really torn as to which way to believe. One, those who did pay the fee were fast tracked through the system and became citizens years earlier, which meant they were able to live and work in Canada as a citizen quiet painlessly. However, for those who did not pay the fees and go through the program had to wait years to be evaulated and unsure if they would become citizens. Halifax wrote:Why not just ask the government to pay your airfare back to your own country? Would that be considered fair? I know countless Canadians who have lost their shirts off their backs in poor business decisions. And now they have nothing. As well, there's countless Canadians making minimum wage who had invested countless money in university degrees but cannot find jobs in their own profession. So they flip burgers to eat. I'm tired of the crying game. So many Canadians are out of work and living in poverty and all that stuff. This is another example how the government of Canada spends our hard-earned taxes in not helping in the long run. annmarie wrote:The immigrants knew what they were doing when they signed the contract. They did get fast tracked into Canada and should be pleased. Black Pearl has very good points. amylynn wrote:I've spoken to immigrants from Europe and Asia, and when I hear their personal stories, I often feel ashamed to be a Nova Scotian. For one thing, there is so much red tape involved in immigrating that the average Canadian would be daunted by the task. The process is excruciatingly long and paperwork intensive. I'm sure immigration lawyers make a great living. Some immigrants I spoke to were led by bureaucrats to invest in Nova Scotia businesses that were clearly unwise choices. They considered it just the price of admission to Canada, but were still bitter once they realized they had been deceived. I wonder who is benefiting from this scenario? My father immigrated to Canada from Germany in the 1950s. Like many other immigrants, his hard work and creativity made a significant contribution to Canada. Except for the First Nations natives, Canadians are all either immigrants or the offspring of immigrants. Surely you'd think we'd be more compassionate and ensure that our government and laws are too. Spartacus wrote:Only those people who have ever actually emigrated can understand all of the problems and frustrations of going through the Canadian immigration process and settling into a new country. The scheme that was conceived to fast track and attract immigrants through making them pay a sum that more than covers their own salaries for a period of time, and then allocating them to local companies for mentorship, is almost immoral. All Canadians should be ashamed of the outcomes that we are seeing. The participating host companies, evidently with little interest apart from the attractive financing provided by the scheme, represent part of a wider malaise that is especially endemic to Nova Scotia. Subsidies and financial incentives on many government projects such as this one seem to be part of a gravy train mentality that rarely meets objectives. Why are the politicians now wasting resources and time trying to finger somebody to blame for a poorly conceived, and administered, scheme that went off the rails? Lets move on. Give the immigrants back their money because you gave them a bum deal. Nova Scotia ranks most likely as one of the most inhospitable places to come to as an immigrant.The effort would be better spent towards changing the attitudes of the Nova Scotian business world and community towards immigrants, and the benefits of having some much needed outside diversity in a province that appears to be in the wrong cultural and economic rut. Concerned Citizen wrote:I fail to see how anyone was treated "unfairly", as Ms. Mills put it. It's a rare day when I'm in agreement with the government on any issue, but I have to concede that in this case, the program's customers (i.e. the well-to-do fast-tracking immigrants) knew what they were buying into before they signed on the dotted line. I find it very telling that one of the complainants (the pastry guy) was fine with his work placement until he discovered that other people were getting their money back. Here is yet another instance (yawn) of opposition parties trying to score political points, and of a money-grubbing lawyer exploiting a group of people's perceived sense of being treated less "fairly" than others. Hogwash! It was a business deal, and if the customers failed to read the fine print regarding mentorship placements, that's their problem, not any one else's. Charlotte Creamer, Halifax boomer321 wrote:The Province wants immigrants to come here but in reality there is not a whole lot of opportunity for them here. If university graduates can't find suitable jobs here, and leave by the plane load, why would anyone think that we can sustain immigrants who didn't go to school here and in many cases have less than adequate English skills? I've been around the world and people in poor countries think that everyone in Canada is rich. The Province should stop taking advantage of this misinformation. There are opportunities in other areas of Canada but an immigrants chance of landing anything other than a McJob in Nova Scotia is slim to none. They should be aware of this before they head to Nova Scotia unaware of the disappointment that lies ahead. Little Jonny wrote:It appears that almost every department of the entire government in this country is corrupt, they should not have let this happen. It doesn,t matter what party is in power it seems to be the same old story, scandal after scandal. There is a serious problem that needs attention. The people of what was a country that was envy of many others has lowered it's standard yet once again. Who can we trust? No! these people did not get a fair deal. Make the companys pay back the money that they lined their pockets with, and give the money back to it rightful owners and treat them with the respect that they deserve. We often hear that Canada needs more workers, especially in the high techinical fields. No wonder it is hard to fill these positions when you treat people with disrespect. gerry1 wrote:The only problem I see is the government should have explained it better. Pay 130,000 to come to Canada. It will be invested in small business and if you work there for 6 months you get 20,000 back. End of story. Pretty sure most people got this as they just settled somewhere else in Canada. I too would step up to get my money back if I knew they would be handing it out. Sailor Man wrote:When this story first broke some months ago, it seemed fishy then. Who got the money? $80,000.00 went to the company that employed the person. The employee (imigrant) got $20,000.00 of that back in wages so the company got a profit of $60,000.00 for doing nothing - in some reports - even telling people to stay at home. The government should have been much more specific with these individuals in what kind of business they would be placed. However they did legally short circuit the imigration process and got into Canada years before they should have. There is enough fault here to give some to everbody involved from the premier of the time on down the ladder. mr_smith wrote:A system like this that panders to profit making on the backs of immigrants should never have been approved by any governmnet body in the first place. It would be interesting to know what people and entities lobbied for this kind of process, who they are, and what they gained from it being put into use. That would be very telling. Heatherdee wrote:My heart goes out to these families. Immigration is more than getting a passport. We all have a responsibility to make NS a better place to live so that both natives and immigrants choose to live here naturally instead of lame-brained schemes that are no more than, essentially, state-sanctioned immigration lawyers. However, the Department of Economic Development would be better to concentrate on finding other ways to economically develop the province instead of allowing so-called Natural Resources and the Department of Environment and Labour to court companies who want to destroy existing communities where people want to live ,and try to live. People invest a lot in their communities they're not paid for. It's ordinary people who are making biggest differences in their communities, not government. Why put all of our eggs in one basket? Help NS families afford more children and/or who experience infertility to invest in affordable IVF programs in addition to making it easier to adopt. It would be an investment in our future taxbase. Why do immigrants get help and naturalized Nova Scotia families not? Why do low-income families get help to raise their families, but those who are desperate to have children, and can afford to raise them, cannot get assistance? Infertility is not a choice. Give workers travelling into HRM better options on how to get there. People might be a lot less cranky and look forward to going to work. Well, ok, maybe not..but, what's the saying...build it and they will come. Don't just talk the talk because it's only going in one ear and out the other. Just like all of these stories of the immigrants, I am sure. When government stops listening, people stop listening back. mhazelwood wrote:If I were a doctor and I payed x amount of dollars to have a chance to work at a five star hotel,but when I got there was told that my job was to sweep floors and take out the garbage, even though the emplorer knew that I was a highly skilled doctor that was expecting to be the hotel doctor, I would be very PO'ed too. Theses people are professional people that payed their hard earned money for a good job that is equivalant to their job at home . What do they get ? Sweeping floors takeing out the trash and working at macdonalds or subway. If they wanted to do that I am sure they would have stayed in their own countries and worked there. There are Macd's all over the world . and guess what ... Most of them pay more money in wages then canada's do. pensive wrote:Would they like some cheeze with the whine, whine, whine ?? stefan wrote:800 applicants have immigrated to nova scotia through nominee program.If the mentorship program has been successful,why the government decided to refund the mentorship fees back to those 600 who havenot signed the contract.this would sum up $60000000 with respect to the fact that majority of them would be absorbed into their large communities in toronto and vancouver due to language barrier after receiving their $100.000 cheques,which is contradictory to the immigration objectives of the province.NSNP is a whole package including fast-track immigration process,mentorship program which holds 76 percent of the $130.500 and settlement assisstance services none of which has been provided.If the nominees were supposed to pay $130500 to immigrate to canada faster than normal,why 25 percent of them have been charged $110,000 whereas the rest would be charged only $30.000. NSCitizen wrote:I know some of these nominees and they know darn well what they are getting into when this program started and when they came here during their exploratory visit. Many are just as happy to get out of their countries where their security is at stake. But many are here to stay for the minimum 4 year permanent residency requirement and once they get their citizenship, many of these "so-called new NS citizens" will be out of here, some back to their countries with a life of luxury and some to other parts of North America. What would hurt the "paying NS citizens" would be these people going after our free health care and the potential for securing our other benefit programs, i.e. Old Age security or Canada Pension Plan. These people are used to buying their way, in this case to fast track their way into the country. Let's wait and see in 5 years, how many of these "new NS" will stick around. I bet my money, that many will not. If I were the Health Minister, I would start planning to make the health system more stringent and provide and maintain the integrity for the true citizens of Nova Scotia. gopher66ca wrote:considering they paid their way to the front of the immigration line, in front of potentially fine candidates in their own right without the financing to jump start the process, I'd say they got their money's worth. I don't see any rush for refunds and emigration for point of origin or other destination.

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回复: 请教：如何获得省提名谢谢,感觉省提名就是投资移民,好象没有什么区别,是这样的吗

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2011.07登陆多伦多,石油专业。回复: 请教：如何获得省提名lz在卡城有亲属吗

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