加拿大华人论坛 温哥华 Vancouver吴曙光说:“BC自由党是犯罪嫌疑政党,BC新民主党是扶不起的阿斗党”。如果一定要投票,我认为华人应该投给绿党



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是不是省自由党的策略呀?不投给我,也别投给我的对手就是帮我了。谁都知道NDP是唯一可能把罪犯赶下去的政党。绿党的理想价值体系高于现实社会不少,很难得到足够的选民支持。相对和它完全对立理念的省自由党,NDP多数方面和绿党比较相近,对于选举策略来说,在绿党占优的选区(可查历史上该区是否绿党MLA),绿党支持者要坚决投绿党,在绿党弱的地区,绿党支持者应该首选投NDP。对一个有犯罪嫌疑并不停损害多数人权益的政党,首要任务是先把它拉下来,如果有犯罪事实,要把他送进监狱。RCMP确实有在调查省自由党的腐败贿选。

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自由党的抹黑战术让人不齿, 自由党确实是个不择不扣的犯罪党。NDP 要比自由党在这方面强很多。 但话又说回来, NDP 太阿斗, 对经济发展兴趣不大。绿党比NDP 还阿斗, 不过绿党仁义, 这恐怕是最重要的。

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bang1,你发誓你不是省自由党一方的?看了你最近的贴,象是给省自由党的高级站台,假意不在意选举,其实都在变相或直接说不要去投票,投自由党和NDP一样,不要投NDP等。大家都知道在BC,只有NDP能击败省自由党,调整现在的各种经济趋势。你如果支持省自由党,就光明磊落的说话。

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John horgan 刚愎自用, 而且内部不团结, 必败无疑。我反对自由党, 反对也没用, 谁让NDP 是阿斗了。

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反对省自由党,就把它选下去。至于John Horgon,是骡是马要拉出来溜溜才知道。还没看过他执政就否定他,并不客观,这真象给自由党站台。

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shi-ma-he 说:反对省自由党,就把它选下去。至于John Horgon,是骡是马要拉出来溜溜才知道。还没看过他执政就否定他,并不客观,这真象给自由党站台。点击展开...自由党猴尖侯尖, 可是心眼不好; NDP 相对好些, 可是太蠢,给你看看下面的报道,你会相信华人促投运动的幕后推手到底是怎么回事。那些发起人大多是大商人, 他们怎么会支持NDP呢?NDP蠢啊, 竟然也有NDP的候选人发起参与这个活动Douglas Todd: B.C.'s ethnic Chinese far more inclined to vote Liberalhttp://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...-population-far-more-inclined-to-vote-liberalwhich political party will most appeal to B.C.’s large ethnic Chinese population, which tends to be well off, morally conservative and politically undecided?A revealing Mainstreet poll for Postmedia suggests, on the surface, the centre-right B.C. Liberals are front runners for the almost 500,000 ethnic Chinese people in the province, nine out of 10 of whom live in Metro Vancouver.But the centre-left NDP are also holding their own among B.C. voters with roots in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Mainland China.The Greens, meanwhile, are virtually a non-starter for Chinese voters.“Members of the Chinese community mostly came to Canada with either money or skills,” says Fenella Sung, a former host for Fairchild Chinese-language radio, explaining why the poll suggested 55 per cent of decided Chinese voters intend to vote Liberal.“Not many of them need to draw support from public resources. Social justice and fairness are low priorities to them. And a change of government means unpredictability. So it is something they fear.”While the Mainstreet poll showed ethnic Chinese are far more inclined than the general B.C. population to vote for the B.C. Liberals (and the federal Conservatives), a significant 33 per cent of Chinese told the pollster they are ready to cast a ballot for the NDP.A paltry eight per cent leaned to the Greens.The hottest battles to woo Chinese voters are arguably occurring in the four ridings of Richmond, where the population is almost half Chinese.But the ethnic vote stakes are also high for politicians in Burnaby and the City of Vancouver, where three out of 10 of residents are Chinese.Justin Fung, with Housing Action for Local Taxpayers (HALT), says many Chinese people in Metro Vancouver lean to the Liberals because “they’re mostly satisfied with the status quo.”Anonymous attack ads in the Chinese-language media targeted Richmond NDP candidate Chak Au for supporting gay rights. Lau tops the polls as Richmond’s most popular city councillor. ARLEN REDEKOP / PNGWell-off Chinese residents have seen their real estate “assets appreciate significantly under the current regime,” Fung said. “So they don’t want to rock the boat significantly.”However, the Mainstreet poll suggests the NDP are capable of attracting a solid segment of the city’s Chinese voters.Former B.C. premier and federal Liberal cabinet minister Ujjal Dosanjh said the NDP typically does better among long-term Chinese immigrants, who are more likely to be from Hong Kong and Taiwan than the People’s Republic of China.“They realized a long time ago the NDP is not like the Communist party of China, whose control they wanted to escape,” said Dosanjh, who regularly won in heavily Chinese provincial and federal ridings in East Vancouver.“With (former NDP premier) Mike Harcourt many Chinese began realizing the NDP is moderate, and that gave the party more of a chance.”As for Chinese voters fundamental indifference to B.C.’s Green party, Sung and Fung chalk it up to the drive of many immigrants to achieve personal prosperity, which makes ecological sustainability a low priority.But how many Chinese in Metro Vancouver will actually vote?The April Mainstreet poll found 32 per cent of Chinese adults were “undecided,” the highest ambivalence rate of any B.C. ethnic group.Sung said election-day turnout has often been low in Richmond’s large Chinese neighbourhoods.Many “pay more attention to politics in their place of origin” than to B.C. campaigns, said Sung, who notes many Chinese-Canadians also mostly follow Mandarin and Cantonese-language newspapers, radio and TV.Another factor contributing to low turnout hinges on how tens of thousands of Chinese in Metro Vancouver are foreign students, working on temporary visas or permanent residents, which means they’re not eligible to vote.“Many of them also come from regions and countries which do not even offer the basic right to vote,” Sung said. Unfamiliar with Canadian democracy, she said, many are not motivated to cast a ballot — and many “can be easily manipulated.”Some of that manipulation comes through appeals to Chinese-Canadians’ generally conservative social values.Ethically inflammatory attack ads in the Chinese-language media in early April targeted Richmond NDP candidate Chak Au, who tops the polls as Richmond’s most popular city councillor.With Au running against incumbent Liberal MLA Linda Reid in Richmond South-Centre, the anonymously financed smear campaign claimed a vote for Au would “support gay marriage” and lead to addiction, poverty and “moral destruction.”UBC-trained assistant professor Justin Tse, who has published academic articles about the province’s more than 100,000 Chinese evangelical Christians, says many ethnic Chinese often have difficulties with LGBQT rights, even while they defend their own ethnic minority rights.Indeed, Tse discovered last year some Chinese in Metro Vancouver, many of whom were raised in conservative countries, are strong supporters of Republican President Donald Trump, not to mention Canada’s federal Conservatives. They see Trump as a beacon of authoritarian stability, Tse said, in a world in which they believe prosperity and morality are under threat.The B.C. Liberals and NDP are each fielding more than half a dozen ethnic Chinese candidates in Metro Vancouver. Tuesday’s election will reveal more about how these complex economic and moral factors play out among an increasingly influential population.

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bang1 说:自由党的副省长兼房屋部长出席了前一段的华人促头活动,泄露了一切天机。如果非要矮子里拔大个, 绿党是最符合华人传统价值观的。只是华人团体被党派利用,华人对内幕并不知晓。如果你是一个正直的人, 而不是一个唯利是图的华人, 请投绿党。点击展开...如果不是特别认同绿党,投绿党不是等于投自由党吗?

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睁大眼睛看得见 说:如果不是特别认同绿党,投绿党不是等于投自由党吗?点击展开...所以不投是上策。

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睁大眼睛看得见 说:如果不是特别认同绿党,投绿党不是等于投自由党吗?点击展开...NDP 与自由党,真的是彼此彼此,半斤对八两。如果房价以后还继续高,自由党也不可能坐视不管;NDP上台后, 忽略经济是肯定的。carboy 这些地产经纪投自由党, 是为利益而战, 也无可厚非。 投票不是为了投票而投票,需要听从内心的声音。如果你觉得绿党更让人信得过, 自由党上台也无所谓, 何况自由党与绿党组成少数政府的可能性也有。

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bang1 说:NDP 与自由党,真的是彼此彼此,半斤对八两。如果房价以后还继续高,自由党也不可能坐视不管;NDP上台后, 忽略经济是肯定的。carboy 这些地产经纪投自由党, 是为利益而战, 也无可厚非。 投票不是为了投票而投票,需要听从内心的声音。如果你觉得绿党更让人信得过, 自由党上台也无所谓, 何况自由党与绿党组成少数政府的可能性也有。点击展开...绿党如果同自由党联合,那么绿党那些领导人也太政客了。绿党支持者会失望吗?

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@bang1 你转载的文章不错,评论客观。我住列志文,看到了满院子扔的攻击NDP的白传单,里面就是很低级的个人攻击。省自由党有钱搞这些小动作,但百姓的生活不满意度不断升高是实际反映。文中有两句话比较客观,第一就是大陆来的普遍是带了钱和技能的,对公共体系资源认同度低,而且不少人从现政策得利,正义和公平意识较弱。第二个就是因为群体相对封闭,容易受中文媒体资讯引导,是财团及资产层容易操纵影响的群体。

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投绿党等于弃权,别上当

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小雷音 说:投绿党等于弃权,别上当点击展开...我就喜欢上当。

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[FONT=Arimo, sans-serif]机会像雪片一样向我扑来,都被我一一闪过。。。。。。[/FONT]我就喜欢上当。点击展开...你是科学养猪吗

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Primed 说:我就喜欢上当。点击展开...所有选举贴里, 最佳贴, 充分表达了民主自由的核心和本质, 境界高尚, 赞!

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小雷音 说:你是科学养猪吗点击展开...我这就去换ID。

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[FONT=Arimo, sans-serif]机会像雪片一样向我扑来,都被我一一闪过。。。。。。[/FONT]所有选举贴里, 最佳贴,充分表达了民主自由的核心和本质, 境界高尚, 赞!点击展开...赞得很舒服,希望保持。

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[FONT=Arimo, sans-serif]机会像雪片一样向我扑来,都被我一一闪过。。。。。。[/FONT] 超赞 赏 S shi-ma-he狮马鹤 0$(VIP 0) 8,3402017-05-05#19 但现在是讲全局,把一个群体中个体的错误和另一个群体的主体有错误相提并论,象是一种开脱狡辩,和中国的一些反击很相象。

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小雷音 说:你是科学养猪吗点击展开...喊我有事吗?

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