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Dear litigant,The meeting before Justice Barnes yesterday was quite enlightening. First, the Chief Justice called for the meeting because with 304 application, the Court was concerned how everyone would cope with so many files. That day, I added 112 more to the pot and have 56 on hand yet to file. Therefore, both parties agreed that, rather than proceeding with all 472 files, I may select representative cases to be decided first with the others held in abeyance. The Court is aware that there are two classes; i.e., those who applied before 27 February 2008 and those who applied between 27 February 2008 and 25 June 2010; and a dozen of so visa posts. Thus, we could first proceed with about twenty-four cases. (However, at this juncture, we have only one file at Pretoria, Manila and Seoul, two at Beijing, three at Singapore, four at Accra and Nairobi each, half a dozen at London and 16 in Hong Kong.) The Court, however, would prefer a mediated solution to litigation and said that a junior judge, whom I trust, had offered to mediate. I accepted the offer, but opposing counsel could not do so without first conferring with CIC. He agreed to provide CIC's decision by December 20th. It should be clear to him that the Court believes that mediation is in everyone's best interest. The problem, however, for CIC is that a mediated settlement would get out, and they would have to fashion a solution for the rest the applicants in the black hole. Thus, while our cases would be settled, CIC's problem would remain. Therefore, they might prefer litigation in order to prolong the process. It should, however, be clear to CIC that, if they choose to litigate, the matter will be decided on the merits and not dismissed at the leave stage. (No assurance to that effect was -- or could be -- given. However, the Chief Justice had decided to have five different judges decide leave, implying that a cross-section of the Court will consider the cases, and surely one would agree to have the matter heard, setting a precedent for everyone else.) If we do go into mediation, it would be that the action-for-damages would have to be deferred during the mediation stage and, if settlement is reached, there would be no damages. So, CIC would certainly gain by settling at this stage. I have attached the Court's order. The significant clause is that future applications will be added to the pool. Thus, additional applications may be lodged until disposition of this litigation. My own guess -- and that is all that it is -- is that, if mediation succeeds, CIC will announce a change in policy vis-à-vis the backlogged files, precluding new mandamus applications en masse. Justice Barnes observed that often the effect in a mandamus application is that the litigant jumps to the head of the queue, adding that, while that result is unfair for the others, the Court may only deal with the case before it. Thus, the advantage of being in the litigation group would be that our files will be processed ahead of the others in the backlog even if the Minister announces that he will allocate a share of the annual quota to each tier of applicants. Also attached is the admission from the program manager at Beijing that processing of pre-Bill C-50 applications has been "suspended" and that there is no time-line for processing them, adding that the Minister will be announcing a plan to deal with those cases. If the "announcement" is not just a stalling tactic, but, rather, indicates that the Minister is planning to announce something, it would be better to be in the litigation group with the possibility of being processed promptly than moving forward at glacial pace all the other warehoused files. On the other hand, if the mediation does not result in a settlement, the action for damages may still be pursued. Thus, the meeting encouraged me with respect to your fate. I will let you know if CIC agrees to mediation. Regards,Tim

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回复: Big news for litigations好长，google一下，自作主张发来看看，语句不通但是能看到大概意思 亲爱的诉讼当事人，前司法巴恩斯会议昨天是相当有启发性的。首先，所谓的终审法院首席法官会议，因为304的应用，法院是担心大家就如何应付这么多的文件。那一天，我增加了112多锅，手头上有56文件。因此，双方同意，而不是与所有472文件出发，我可能会选择有代表性的案件，决定暂时搁置其他第一。法院知道，有两类，即适用于2008年2月申请到2010年6月25日之间和2008年2月27日之前十几等签证。因此，我们可以先进行约二十四宗。 （然而，在这个时刻，我们在比勒陀利亚，马尼拉及汉城只有一个文件，在新加坡，在阿克拉和内罗毕各4个，半打在伦敦和香港的16。在北京，三）然而，法院，宁愿一个诉讼的中介解决方案，并说我的信任，提供了一个初级的判断，进行调解。我接受了邀请，但对方律师不能没有与cic首次赋予。他同意提供12月20日投的决定。应该很清楚他，法院认为，调解是在每个人的最佳利益。 不过，cic的问题，是调解协议会出去，他们将时尚其余申请人的解决方案在黑洞。因此，虽然我们的情况下会得到解决，cic的问题仍然存在。因此，他们可能更喜欢诉讼，以延长的过程。 ，但是，它应该是明确的cic，如果他们选择诉讼，此事将决定对案情并没有离开舞台驳回。 （没有这种效果的保证 - 或者可能 - 然而，终审法院首席法官已决定有五种不同的法官决定离开，这意味着法院的一个横截面，会考虑的情况下，一定会同意。有听说此事，设置了其他人的先河。）

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回复: Big news for litigations如果我们进入调解，这将是行动的损害将不得不推迟在调解阶段，如果达成和解，就没有赔偿。因此cic肯定会在这个阶段获得解决。我重视法院的命令。显著条例草案第是未来的应用将被添加到池中。因此，额外的应用程序可能会提出，直至处置这起诉讼。我自己的猜测 - 那就是所有，它是 - 是，如果调解成功，CIC将宣布改变政策面对面的积压文件，排除新的履行义务令应用集体。巴恩斯司法观察在履行义务令应用程序的影响，往往是当事人跳转到队列的头部，添加，而这一结果是为他人不公平，法院可能只处理与之前的情况下。因此，在集团诉讼的好处是，我们的文件将被处理积压即使其他部长宣布，他将分配的年度配额的市场份额，每级的申请人。此外，隶属是从项目经理在北京录取的前处理，条例草案的C -50的应用程序已经“暂停”，有没有处理他们的时间线，部长将宣布一项计划，以应付这些情况。如果“公告”不只是一个缓兵之计，而是，而是表明，部长计划公布的东西，将更好地在集团诉讼要及时处理，比冰川的步伐向前迈进的可能性其他仓库的文件。

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回复: Big news for litigations另一方面，如果调解没有达成和解，损害赔偿的诉讼可能仍然是追求。因此，会议鼓励我尊重你的命运。我会让你知道,如果cic同意调解。此致Tim

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回复: Big news for litigations如果我们进入调解，这将是行动的损害将不得不推迟在调解阶段，如果达成和解，就没有赔偿。因此cic肯定会在这个阶段获得解决。 我重视法院的命令。显著条例草案第是未来的应用将被添加到池中。因此，额外的应用程序可能会提出，直至处置这起诉讼。 我自己的猜测 - 那就是所有，它是 - 是，如果调解成功，CIC将宣布改变政策面对面的积压文件，排除新的履行义务令应用集体。巴恩斯司法观察在履行义务令应用程序的影响，往往是当事人跳转到队列的头部，添加，而这一结果是为他人不公平，法院可能只处理与之前的情况下。因此，在集团诉讼的好处是，我们的文件将被处理积压即使其他部长宣布，他将分配的年度配额的市场份额，每级的申请人。 此外，隶属是从项目经理在北京录取的前处理，条例草案的C -50的应用程序已经“暂停”，有没有处理他们的时间线，部长将宣布一项计划，以应付这些情况。如果“公告”不只是一个缓兵之计，而是，而是表明，部长计划公布的东西，将更好地在集团诉讼要及时处理，比冰川的步伐向前迈进的可能性其他仓库的文件。点击展开... 哈哈，GOOGLE真利害 ANYWAY，是个利好消息：诉讼在如期进行，没有象CIC那样拖起来没完 我查询了法院的主页，每一次的案件变化都有及时详细的记录，真开眼界，和国内的诉讼截然不同：公开、高效，是否公平要看结果 一方面感谢LISEN，一方面感谢律师，一方面很激动：不相信我也有这样的好运气，碰到个能干的律师 看了陆川体的BLOK，还自责来着：就知道自己运气差，还偏偏递香港，不是CIC慢，是我的坏运气影响了大家。看来也许并非如此的 哈哈，再开心一下吧

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06年底简表递HK07年5月16日FN VO LCY11年再考YS，自评67分S2 快来吧 超赞 赏 R red8bull 0$(VIP 0) 4612011-12-11#8 回复: Big news for litigations这个真坚定了去加的决心啊。

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-->IELTS L8 S6 R6.5 W6 self-assess：70 points -->2006.09.14 HK -->2007.02.16 FN:B050535***VO:unknown -->2009.01.20 Confirmation Letter -->2012.03.21 S2 -->2012.05.18 S2 submitted -->2012.06.06 S2 resubmmited -->2012.06.19 ME 超赞 赏 大 大知逼 0$(VIP 0) 5962011-12-12#12 回复: Big news for litigations如果明年第一季度还不开始91,我也参加诉讼.

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尽人事，听天命。Do something...07年7月 FN，等ME中。。。 超赞 赏 S shanjin 0$(VIP 0) 582011-12-13#14 回复: Big news for litigations这译文像用电脑机械地乱译似的，看得比原文更费劲。

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回复: Big news for litigations知道大概了，谢谢分享！有消息就好阿！

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