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如题:听过说人在这买了车后再卖给国内的亲友,可以申请退回车行所收的GST PST。问过PST在买了七日内卖掉可以REBATE,但联帮税局说不能。有没有哪个高人听说?手续如何?多谢!!!!!!!!!
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可以申请,联邦不管省税的事,从联邦那里申请GST退税,从省那里申请PST。需要相关材料证据去申请
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小雷音 说:可以申请,联邦不管省税的事,从联邦那里申请GST退税,从省那里申请PST。需要相关材料证据去申请点击展开...我问了联邦税局,如果是个人没COMMERCIAL ACTIVITES,是不行的。你的意思是不是给自己申请一个GST帐号,但一般人都没有BUSINESS,如何处理?太谢谢你这个前辈关注了。
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Susana. 说:我问了联邦税局,如果是个人没COMMERCIAL ACTIVITES,是不行的。你的意思是不是给自己申请一个GST帐号,但一般人都没有BUSINESS,如何处理?太谢谢你这个前辈关注了。点击展开...如果你说给转给父母当然他们会这样说。你的车是否是买在你自己的title下?如果是自己的 title,而且你属于税务居民的话,可能GST这块有问题,但七天内PST原则上是可以退的。如果你直接以非税务居民的名义买就属于GST可返还的范畴。如果你有expectation of profit,就应该可以申请GST number,哪怕只是卖一辆,原则上是这样。操作上不知道有没有成功的例子另外买的时候直接由卖家发货出国的话,他们应该不收GST,但车有些特殊,很多车dealer不能出口的最后最简单的是,为什么不找个有GST number的公司买呢?他们收点手续费
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小雷音 说:如果你说给转给父母当然他们会这样说。你的车是否是买在你自己的title下?如果是自己的 title,而且你属于税务居民的话,可能GST这块有问题,但七天内PST原则上是可以退的。如果你直接以非税务居民的名义买就属于GST可返还的范畴。如果你有expectation of profit,就应该可以申请GST number,哪怕只是卖一辆,原则上是这样。操作上不知道有没有成功的例子另外买的时候直接由卖家发货出国的话,他们应该不收GST,但车有些特殊,很多车dealer不能出口的最后最简单的是,为什么不找个有GST number的公司买呢?他们收点手续费点击展开...非居民买不是RESELL,也不行的。你说的找个GST 公司,做一次有可能行,一般人也不愿意为了这点手续费而昌这个险。PST 倒是容易点。但是公司估计也只能做一次而已,否则就是以营利为目的了,要注册PST了。再请你老再想想,如果不能放到台面说,就短我消息。多谢!
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Susana. 说:非居民买不是RESELL,也不行的。你说的找个GST 公司,做一次有可能行,一般人也不愿意为了这点手续费而昌这个险。PST 倒是容易点。但是公司估计也只能做一次而已,否则就是以营利为目的了,要注册PST了。再请你老再想想,如果不能放到台面说,就短我消息。多谢!点击展开...是说非居民买了带出境,跟是不是resell没关系,当然不是买了在这里开以营利为目的,不表示要注册PST,因为你是出口,本来没有pst taxable的业务。但是GST出口那个叫零税率,仍然是GST taxable的项目要申请GST。当然,从字面上说,就是expectation of profit,,不过话说回来,有利润就要交税了,但应该比GST的钱少建议不要这样折腾,最好的方式是直接从dealer那里搞定,说是出口的,dealer直接发货出去,有bill of lading这些,他们可以直接不收你GST和PST的。当然dealer没有这个义务,他可以不给你办。找个好的sales给你搞定,不然申请退就麻烦多了。必须是厂家允许出口的车型
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小雷音 说:是说非居民买了带出境,跟是不是resell没关系,当然不是买了在这里开CRA说这样不行,要RESEL才能申请REBATE以营利为目的,不表示要注册PST,因为你是出口,本来没有pst taxable的业务。但是GST出口那个叫零税率,仍然是GST taxable的项目要申请GST。当然,从字面上说,就是expectation of profit,,不过话说回来,有利润就要交税了,但应该比GST的钱少建议不要这样折腾,最好的方式是直接从dealer那里搞定,说是出口的,dealer直接发货出去,有bill of lading这些,他们可以直接不收你GST和PST的。当然dealer没有这个义务,他可以不给你办。找个好的sales给你搞定,不然申请退就麻烦多了。必须是厂家允许出口的车型点击展开...这里最大的障碍就是DEALER不会卖给你如果你说运回中国。有些行业地区限制。请继续研究。。。。
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小雷音 说:是说非居民买了带出境,跟是不是resell没关系,当然不是买了在这里开以营利为目的,不表示要注册PST,因为你是出口,本来没有pst taxable的业务。但是GST出口那个叫零税率,仍然是GST taxable的项目要申请GST。当然,从字面上说,就是expectation of profit,,不过话说回来,有利润就要交税了,但应该比GST的钱少建议不要这样折腾,最好的方式是直接从dealer那里搞定,说是出口的,dealer直接发货出去,有bill of lading这些,他们可以直接不收你GST和PST的。当然dealer没有这个义务,他可以不给你办。找个好的sales给你搞定,不然申请退就麻烦多了。必须是厂家允许出口的车型点击展开...CRA说这样不行,要RESEL才能申请REBATE
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Susana. 说:CRA说这样不行,要RESEL才能申请REBATE点击展开...不可能不行,他说的是其中一种而已。非居民来这里旅游买车带回去都属于可rebate的而且GST并没有居民买车resell不是营利为目的可以rebate的项目这些条款在CRA网站上都很明确列出的
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小雷音 说:不可能不行,他说的是其中一种而已。非居民来这里旅游买车带回去都属于可rebate的而且GST并没有居民买车resell不是营利为目的可以rebate的项目这些条款在CRA网站上都很明确列出的点击展开...我专门问了GST RULING DEPARTMENT。他们说的就是旅游来买车不能REBATE,除了回去是RESELL。我还问了两呢。再想想还没有办法。
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Susana. 说:我专门问了GST RULING DEPARTMENT。他们说的就是旅游来买车不能REBATE,除了回去是RESELL。我还问了两呢。再想想还没有办法。点击展开...来旅游买车当然不能,但是带回去用原文上面写的是非居民买出境作为commercial use,但commercial use不一定是resell,而且在境外,谁知道怎么用的,操作起来不知道如何处理的。具体见reason code 4所以最好是直接由dealer承运,这样开始就不交GST最省事If the non-resident business or consumer allowed the supplier to arrange for shipping of the goods so that the delivery of the goods occurs outside Canada, GST/HST would not be charged. If goods are delivered in Canada, the supplier must charge the GST/HST because the supplier can no longer control whether the goods actually leave Canada.
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If a non-resident takes possession of goods in Canada and plans to export goods and file for a rebate, they must prove that they exported with goods within 60 days. That means they need paperwork that has been stamped by government authorities relating to the export. It used to be that the non-resident would present themselves and the goods to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) at the time of export and complete paperwork. The CBSA says to non-residents that they do not have forms to complete relating to exports (even though there is the E15 Certificate of Destruction/Exportation). I recommend that the non-resident prepares paperwork and ask the CBSA to stamp the paperwork to acknowledge the request (at least). More importantly, the non-resident should complete the entry paperwork when returning to their home country. In the United States, the person would complete a form 7901. This paperwork is good evidence of an import into another country, which usually is accepted as evidence of export from Canada.
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研究了半天,我觉得强调的还是business而不是个人消费用,如果是居民买就要GST号,不是居民买就要申请rebate。但不管谁买,如果直接运出境就不用交GST,因为卖家相当于是直接卖出境外,是零税率难度在你要证明你不是consumer,是商业用,总之GST看来 麻烦You are eligible for a rebate if: ■ you are a non-resident; ■ you received goods in Canada and paid the GST/HST on them on or before delivery; ■ you are not a consumer of the goods; ■ you exported the goods from Canada within 60 days of delivery (you have to have either taken the goods with you when you left Canada or exported them by mail or common carrier); ■ you bought the goods in the course of the commercial activities of any Canadian establishment that you own; ■ the total of all receipts attached to your application shows that you made taxable purchases (other than zero-rated purchases) of at least CAN$200 (excluding the HST in a participating province or the GST and provincial sales tax (PST) in the rest of Canada); and ■ each receipt attached to your application shows that you made eligible taxable purchases (other than zero-rated purchases) of at least CAN$50 (excluding the HST in a participating province or the GST and PST in the rest of Canada). You are not eligible for a GST/HST rebate when you export the following goods: ■ alcoholic beverages such as liquor, wine, and beer; ■ tobacco products; and ■ gasoline, diesel fuel, or other motive fuels other than fuel that is being transported in a vehicle designed for bulk transport and that is not for use in the vehicle that is transporting it. In certain cases, when the supplier charged you the GST/HST by mistake on goods that you purchased and exported from Canada, you can ask the supplier for a tax refund or credit. If you cannot get a refund or credit from the supplier (for example, if the supplier refuses to refund the amount or goes out of business), you can apply for a rebate of the GST/HST paid in error under reason code 1. Goods (other than excisable goods such as beer, spirits, wine, and tobacco products) are zero-rated if you take delivery of the goods in Canada, and all of the following conditions are met: ■ you are not a consumer; ■ you export the goods as soon as is reasonable in the circumstance after they are delivered to you; ■ you do not buy the goods to consume, use, or supply in Canada before exporting them; ■ after buying the goods and before exporting them, you do not further process, transform, or alter the goods in Canada, unless it is reasonably necessary or incidental to transport them; and ■ the supplier keeps satisfactory evidence, for audit purposes, that you exported the goods.
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如果是直接运出境,也可以考虑用reason code 1来申请,不需要是非居民。说到底,关键还是要直接运出境。reason code 1. Goods (other than excisable goods such as beer, spirits, wine, and tobacco products) are zero-rated if you take delivery of the goods in Canada, and all of the following conditions are met: ■ you are not a consumer; ■ you export the goods as soon as is reasonable in the circumstance after they are delivered to you; ■ you do not buy the goods to consume, use, or supply in Canada before exporting them; ■ after buying the goods and before exporting them, you do not further process, transform, or alter the goods in Canada, unless it is reasonably necessary or incidental to transport them; and ■ the supplier keeps satisfactory evidence, for audit purposes, that you exported the goods.
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Susana. 说:这里最大的障碍就是DEALER不会卖给你如果你说运回中国。有些行业地区限制。请继续研究。。。。点击展开...有些车型是不行,应该不是行业地区的问题,而是厂家跟dealer间的协议。而且在美国私运是非法的。在这里不非法,但是很多要签non-export协议,如果属于这类车型就没什么可说的了,不可能直接运出境豪华车国内价格是这边的两三倍,如果这样的话会影响厂家的利润。如果有钱挣,就不要介意CRA那5%了
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小雷音 说:有些车型是不行,应该不是行业地区的问题,而是厂家跟dealer间的协议。而且在美国私运是非法的。在这里不非法,但是很多要签non-export协议,如果属于这类车型就没什么可说的了,不可能直接运出境豪华车国内价格是这边的两三倍,如果这样的话会影响厂家的利润。如果有钱挣,就不要介意CRA那5%了点击展开...这个是说到要害。不知是厂家的价格还是经销商的定价,直接由他们运出不大可能。现在就是通过ITC OR REBATE操作。你以上发的还要消化消化。再问一下税局。可能性不大,因为我 们已问了两次了。
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Susana. 说:这个是说到要害。不知是厂家的价格还是经销商的定价,直接由他们运出不大可能。现在就是通过ITC OR REBATE操作。你以上发的还要消化消化。再问一下税局。可能性不大,因为我 们已问了两次了。点击展开...你的情况,估计没什么戏,除非是说营利目的的。PST能回来就有大头了
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小雷音 说:你的情况,估计没什么戏,除非是说营利目的的。PST能回来就有大头了点击展开...问了一两个在所里做的会计同行都没听说过,看来是不行了,如是走正规行道。如果研究出门路来告知一声。祝你生意蒸蒸日上
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Susana. 说:问了一两个在所里做的会计同行都没听说过,看来是不行了,如是走正规行道。如果研究出门路来告知一声。祝你生意蒸蒸日上点击展开...谢谢!
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