加拿大进出口外贸SOHO生涯第一单（现场直播）

加拿大外贸

厌倦了乏味无聊的教师职业，8月辞掉公职，开始外贸SOHO生涯。选产品，添设备，做网站，google推广，9月开始收到几个询盘，感觉这个是一个真正的买家，问的问题专业，具体。这是我SOHO生涯的第一单，都说印度人苛刻会算计，价格压得低，我还是希望宁愿少赚点也要成功拿下这个单子，请各位大侠支持、帮助、不吝指教，成功后送各位美女（帅哥）一名。

从询盘开始现场直播。Forest就是本人。

Forest        hello? I am very sorry for delaying to answer your message. I was away this morning.  
gaurav         hi, u make pool tables ?
Forest        yeah
gaurav        factory or trading co ?
Forest        factory, and you?
gaurav        we are biggest buyers in India, for billiards & pool
Forest        Good, we produce high quality pool tables and billiard tables
        gaurav发送Solid Pool Specifications.doc
gaurav        pls accept and see if you can meet our prices
Forest        what is it
        您成功地从 gaurav 处接收了 D:\我的文档\桌面\ Solid Pool Specifications.doc。
gaurav        we are looking for factory for these tables
Forest        ok, let me see
gaurav        we know XX billiards in ur region
Forest        well, i know that one, they are expensive
gaurav        ya, true. this document has complete details on my requirement of pool tables. pls check carefully n reply
Forest        ok, I got it
gaurav        ok, I m here
Forest        ur target price is US$ 280 – 300 ?
gaurav         yes
Forest        well, i have to ask my boss, would you please wait for some time
gaurav        oh yes
Forest        c u
gaurav        yes.
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[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-10-16 18:50 编辑 ]

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Forest        sir? All Hand Painted? what does that mean?
gaurav        yes
gaurav        it means painted. no laminates. no pvc laminate, no other laminate. wood painted
Forest        well, we are machine painted
gaurav        yes, i know. machine painted is ok
Forest        ok, I see. And Chinese Grade?  what does that mean
gaurav        chinese grade ?
Forest        do you mean quality?
gaurav        wait i check
gaurav        yes, it means grade A balls
gaurav        chinese balls. it means, we want chinese grade A balls.
Forest        oh , i c. and 12 chalks & 12 Tips? do you mean the powder and plastic cover for the cue?
gaurav        forget this. it's too small. it means 12 billiard chalks & 12 cue tips extra
Forest        ok
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[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 07:41 编辑 ]

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Forest        sir?
gaurav        yes
Forest        I just translated it into chinese
gaurav        ok
Forest        but my boss is away now, so we have to reply this evening
gaurav        ok. pls mail me later
Forest        thanks for your enquiry
gaurav        thx. bye for now
Forest        bye

[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 07:42 编辑 ]

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LZ,好长～～～～～不过恭喜啊～～

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你就得瑟吧
产品是台球桌
然后客户的邮箱是
下次注意

[ 本帖最后由 sinda22 于 2010-9-18 10:16 编辑 ]

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楼主确实大意了，客户资料怎么能随便透露了，随便一下就搜到你客户信息了。

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哈哈，楼上。。。。。。。。

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gaurav        any news ?
Forest        sorry sir, my boss is not back yet
gaurav        ok
Forest        maybe this evening, we ll reply
gaurav        ok
Forest        by the way, do you mean factory price or FOB price by your target price?
gaurav        ex factory
Forest        oh, do you have a forwarder?
gaurav        yes
Forest        ok, please wait

[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 07:42 编辑 ]

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楼主杯具喽

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gaurav        boss back ?
Forest        not yet, sir
Forest        the last picture seems like carved tables
gaurav        yes
Forest        Do you mean to ask quite the same one? or similar?
gaurav        i want same tables as in the pictures
Forest        i mean carved tables may be much more expensive, and your target price may not work
gaurav        you can try, may be it works
Forest        i am afraid not
gaurav        no ?
Forest        my boss is just back, and he is having dinner, he will look at your picture in a moment
Forest        but i really am afraid your target price doesn't work
Forest        maybe we can negotiate further
gaurav        ok
Forest        please wait one more moment
gaurav        ok
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[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 07:43 编辑 ]

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斑竹不地道，可以悄悄的提醒LZ嘛。

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是假了.concrete mixing plant 这个产品大家熟悉吗?

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看不到的？

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直播呢 楼主  直播呢

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Forest        sir, the last two tables shall be made of oak?
gaurav        yes
Forest        can it be changed into other wood?
gaurav        preferably oak wood. if at all not possible, any hard wood
Forest        ok. my boss is calculating
gaurav        ok
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[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 07:43 编辑 ]没看到直播呀

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Forest        sir, yes, we can make the tables according to your requirements
gaurav        wood ?
Forest        not oak, but hard wood
gaurav        which hard wood ?
Forest        ash wood, Japanese ash
gaurav        good, we will sign quality agreement...ok ?
Forest        wait, i mean the price that you offer doesn't work. it has to be higher. i am really sorry,
gaurav        ?
Forest        we can make the tables but the prices have to be higher
gaurav        no, ha ha. if price is higher, all factories can make it, even i can make it
Forest        the price that you offer is even lower than our costs
gaurav        but target price is important
gaurav        ohhh, wats ur price
Forest        450usd for the first, and 650 for the second and third
gaurav        thx, very much
gaurav        we do business together some other time
Forest        ok, up to you. ur price is not acceptable. we would lose money if that low
gaurav        ok, i understand
Forest        if you find any manufacturer which could accept your price, plese let me know, i ll buy a lot
gaurav        ok
Forest        good luck
Forest        well, by the way, why not try some other products
gaurav        like ?
Forest        well, we have another tables, which is nearly ur price, and the same quality, but i dont know how to send the picture to you
Forest        look at this one, looks the same frame as yours, 350 $
Forest        hello?
gaurav        send it to my email

[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 08:49 编辑 ]

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谢谢分享！在线谈客户学习了

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gaurav        hi, send me specifications for the 350 pool table
Forest        ok
gaurav        this is made of ply wood, right ?
gaurav        send me complete specifications
gaurav        slate is 25 mm ?
Forest        ok, wait a moment, I ll send it to you this afternoon, maybe in one or two hours. ok?
gaurav        ok
……
Forest        hello, The size of the table is: 2.58*1.43*0.85
Forest        258cm * 143cm * 85cm
Forest        birch wood, 25mm slate, international standard green cloth
Forest        coffee color, delicately carved
gaurav        wood used on the pool table is birch ?
Forest        yes
gaurav        for under frame ? is also wood
Forest        yes
gaurav        can i see some pictures of under frame & also some pictures of packing
Forest        ok, wait please
gaurav        ok mail me
Forest        ok

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gaurav        not send yet ?
Forest        please wait
gaurav        ok
……
Forest        well, sir
gaurav        ?
Forest        i am sorry, the under frame is not wood
gaurav        u sorry, every time ? i knew it is not wood
Forest        i didn't know before. whats ur requirement
gaurav        forget my requirement, if you have pictures, send me, of the same table
Forest        and the packing pictures?
gaurav        yes
Forest        we are preparing
gaurav        ok
Forest        sorry for keeping you waiting
gaurav        its ok
Forest        Sir, do you mean the part around the slate by under frame?
gaurav        parts below the slates
Forest        if under frame is not the slate, it is wood. only slate is stone
gaurav        i know. i want to see all pictures u have
Forest        well, we don't have prepared ones, so have to take some. we are doing
gaurav        ok, i m here
Forest        and many buyer are waiting for our products, have to keep u waiting, sorry.
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Forest        sir?
Forest        look at the pictures, the underframe is wood. only the slate is stone.
Forest        the price (350usd) is only for large amounts, (eg a container)
Forest        The retail price is 500 USD
……
Forest        hello?
gaurav        hello, u did not send me pictures
Forest        i did, check ur email
gaurav        ok
Forest        get it?
gaurav        checking it, wait
gaurav        one thing you must know is we are not retail buyer but full container buyer
Forest        good
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Forest        got the pictures? underframe is wood, believe me.
Forest        we unpacked the tables and took the pictures, and then asked someone to photoshop the pictures
gaurav        ok, will check now
gaurav        i don't think you really are a factory
Forest        why not? we are
gaurav        you have to un pack ur material, then know it's wood ? not before ?
gaurav        u make it, then u must know before it's wood
Forest        well, i am just a salesman, and i had to ask my boss and the technician
Forest        we unpacked the tables just because we want to take the pictures
gaurav        are u frankly a factory ?
Forest        sure, read our web, our factory is in Hangzhou, and our export department is inNingbo
gaurav        100 % you are a trading company. my experience says my friend
Forest        ok, believe it or not
gaurav        how many such tables in 20' ?
Forest        I beg ur pardon?
gaurav        my question to you is, how many such tables can fit in 20' GP ?
Forest        about 20-30
gaurav        just ?  this table is packed un - assembled or assembled ?
Forest        unassembled
gaurav        but then only 20 - 30 ? it's too less
Forest        40 maybe
gaurav        you work every day, you still do not know exact qty in a container ?
Forest        well, sir, i am just a new employee, beginner as a salesman, i have to ask my boss about everything
gaurav        ok, then pls ask ur boss and tell me
gaurav        also tell me list of accessories with the table
Forest        ok no problem
gaurav        i may buy if deal is good
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Forest        the list of accessories is: balls, cues, triangle, chalk, tips
gaurav        how many cues ?
Forest        3
gaurav        ok. 350 is best offer?
Forest        yeah
gaurav        no less
Forest        sorry sir, my boss said so
gaurav        but we want 4 cues, one set of balls, cue holder, brush, triangle, cover, chalk & tips. pls confirm
Forest        i am afraid the price would be a little higher for "4 cues, one set of balls, cue holder, brush, triangle, cover, chalk & tips"
gaurav        how much ?
Forest        maybe 10 USD higher, 360 altogether
gaurav        we shall discuss wen we finally decide to buy from u
Forest        chalk may get broken in shipping
gaurav        no, chalk is very small issue
Forest        oh, any other question?

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gaurav        yes, because it is first business, we will like to come personally & check quality before shipping ?where exactly is ur factory.
Forest        pengbu town in hangzhou
gaurav        also sign quality contract
Forest        of course, you should make sure everything is ok
gaurav        hangzhou ? where is it ?
Forest        well, its really hard to describe it, I would take you there
gaurav        i mean how to reach ?  which part of china? close to which city ?
Forest        Hangzhou is capital of Zhejiang. close to ningbo
gaurav        ok, i come to shanghai
gaurav        from shanghai to ningbo, i think
Forest        no, dont have to
gaurav        ?
Forest        hangzhou is in the middle of the two
gaurav        oh, from shanghai, how far ?  by bus how much time it takes
Forest        maybe 100 km, about two hours, maybe three
gaurav        will you send some one to shanghai airport ?
Forest        to shanghai?
gaurav        yes
Forest        why not fly directly to hangzhou or ningbo? i am very far from shanghai.
Forest        if you fly to ningbo, i ll be there at the airport
gaurav        i will have to check availability
gaurav        ok, we will see, later
Forest        many flights in Ningbo
gaurav        thx, i will inform you in some days
Forest        ok, hope everything goes fine
gaurav        hope so too
Forest        wait for good news
gaurav        ok,bye

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楼主够厉害！ 等阿三来了，请他吃大闸蟹！夹他嘴！让他说你100% you are trading co.

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LZ修改的发言，赞一个!

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啊三  还是小心点  楼主厉害

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看的我头晕叻。印度的没兴趣

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gaurav        gud morning, i have a question
Forest        hi
gaurav        this US$ 350 is FOB or Ex - Works
Forest        ex factory of course
gaurav        what will be price
Forest        which port do you prefer? we are close to ningbo
gaurav        ok, tell me cost ex ningbo
Forest        10 USD more
gaurav        ok
Forest        do u have a forwarder?
gaurav        yes, we have a forwarder
gaurav        u have export rights ? or you export through trading company ?
Forest        through trading company and we will pay the company
gaurav        trading company is in which region ?
Forest        Ningbo
gaurav        name of the trading company ?
Forest        XXX Co., LTD
gaurav        they have web ?
Forest        yeah, www.XXX.cn
gaurav        ok, pls send your PI and some more clear pictures of the table
gaurav        also many more packing pictures
gaurav        20' GP, PI in favor of XXXXXX, Site -XXXXXX
gaurav        Contact Person : Gaurav
gaurav        Contact Number : +91 - XXXXXXXXXXX
gaurav        OK ?
Forest        no problem, but please wait
gaurav        ?
Forest        today is Saturday. people are resting
gaurav        ok, c u on Monday. bye
Forest        thanks
gaurav        i want some pictures on Monday morning sure, ok ?
Forest        no problem
gaurav        bye
Forest        have a nice weekend

[ 本帖最后由 dickxusd 于 2010-9-18 14:47 编辑 ]

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住楼猪好运！！
我也跟印度阿三做过单的，他们总是想占便宜，希望你能遇到个好点的。
GOOD GOOD LUCK!!

谢谢了，版主！

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哎幺 好累眼呢 从头看到尾 不错 不错 呵呵

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哎幺 好累眼呢 从头看到尾 不错 不错 呵呵

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  离订单还远着呢   看情形，客人还没有完全相信你是厂家 ，继续努力···

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感谢各位关注，请不吝指教啊！事成之后请各位到天上人间去耍一把！

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恭喜。。。。。。。。。。。。。。。

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期待后续发展

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据说义乌的天上人间给关了

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谢谢楼主的贴子~`

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公务员的工作你都辞掉，来干这个。真不知道你怎么想的。

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Forest        sir?  what is this: XXXXXXXX? Your company name?
gaurav        yes, our company name
Forest        well, sir. another problem
gaurav        go ahead
Forest        when we export, we have to pay the tax
gaurav        so
Forest        about 17% of the price
gaurav        so
Forest        quite a lot. if you pay the money through the trading company
gaurav        then ?
Forest        we will not be able to avoid the tax, and thats a lot of money
gaurav        so
Forest        but if you pay through my boss's paypal, we would save this money
gaurav        no, we have to pay by bank
Forest        what about the tax? who will pay?
gaurav        ur company don't have export rights
Forest        no, we dont have
Forest        the price that we give you is ex factory price, the price doesn't include tax
gaurav        wat to do ?
Forest        u decide
gaurav        if we pay u via pay pall, how u export ?
Forest        forwarder knows how to operate
gaurav        how ?
Forest        well, difficult to describe
gaurav        how to pay to pay pal account i do not know
Forest        paypal is easy. the whole world is using paypal
gaurav        how to pay
Forest        well, find their website, and register
gaurav        ok
Forest        and call their service man, they would help you
gaurav        ok
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Forest        and i have prepared the PI and two more pictures
gaurav        ok send
Forest        check your email please
gaurav        ok
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gaurav        my friend, i can see pictures of two kinds of pool tables. which one you want to
gaurav        or both?
Forest        two? let me check
gaurav        ok
Forest        sir i think they are just different color
gaurav        no, i think these are not made by ur factory, u do not even know
gaurav        they are different models
Forest        well, sir, i have to admit that.
Forest        i called my boss just now, he said even the model was carried away by buyers
Forest        and he couldnt offer me more pictures
Forest        and he told to to tell you that the products are just the same as the picture
gaurav        if you are new with business or any thing else, please don't hide from ur buyer
Forest        well, sorry
gaurav        there are two different pictures, i know both the models
Forest        but how can i satisfy your need of pictures? i know you are experts. i am a greenhand
gaurav        i want to know, there are two pictures, you offer us both models ?
Forest        no, the first. It was made of our products
Forest        i hope you dont mind my fault
gaurav        ok

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Forest        how do you think of the way of payment? paypal is really good for buyers
gaurav        i will think & reply you
Forest        ok. by the way, how do i pronounce your name, sir
gaurav        gaurav
Forest        idont know how to pronounce it
gaurav        u can call me Mr. XXX
Forest        Mr, XXX, to be honest, you are my first buyer
gaurav        i can guess that
Forest        i was newly employed in August and never did trading before
gaurav        ok
Forest        i was once a teacher in middle school but i am fed up with teaching, and became a salesman.
gaurav        ok, all the best to you
Forest        thanks, you are a kind man, hope to learn more from you
gaurav        take a little lesson on ur products, then you can sell better. be sure before u say any thing to a buyer
Forest        ok, i will
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\PI and Pictures\packing-1.jpg
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\PI and Pictures\Packing-2.jpg
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\PI and Pictures\Packing-3.jpg
Forest        Mr Sikka, my boss send me some pictures of packing, but no pictures of naked tables
gaurav        ok
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\PI and Pictures\Packing-3.jpg
        传输“packing-1.jpg”完成。
        传输“Packing-2.jpg”完成。
        传输“Packing-3.jpg”完成。
gaurav 'billiardO' sikka        cu some other day
Forest        ok

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lz，首先欢迎你踏入外贸行列，但你要走的路还很长，加油！

ps，不是这老外挑剔，而是你实在业余。。。

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是这样的！新手嘛祝你早日把这阿三拿下，早日把美女分给我们～～～

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gaurav        hi
Forest        good morning, sir
gaurav        you mean to say we have to pay by personal a/c USD
Forest        yes, if not, we will have to pay the tax, thats quite a lot of money
gaurav        ok, if there is any problem, still ?
Forest        and something of you forwarder, if you have ur forwarder, i shall discuss about the costs with them
gaurav        listen, my friend, with out loosing much time, i will make things clear to u. we can order you,
gaurav        but first condition, we will pay 30% advance, balance on fax copy of BL.  it's standard in China
gaurav        2nd condition, we will come personally to check quality
gaurav        3rd condition, we will require both models, as you showed in your table pictures
gaurav        i have your email with the pictures
gaurav        pls confirm with your boss
Forest        well, sir for the second and third condition, no problem
Forest        but for the first, if we go as you said, you should use our forwarder
Forest        if we use your forwarder, its a big risk
gaurav        ok, i can use ur forwarder
Forest        ok, then there is no problem
gaurav        i wud like to come personally to check quality ?
Forest        no problem
Forest        when u come tell me in advance
gaurav        ok
gaurav        about two models ?
Forest        what do you mean by two models? have them for free?
gaurav        no no, i means when i order i want two different types of tables
Forest        how many for each
gaurav        20 20 each
Forest        well, for the second model, i dont know the exact price, i must ask my boss
gaurav        find out pls
Forest        and for the first, 20 is too small a number, i am afraid my boss would not agree that low price
Forest        you know, 370 is just for large number, at least a container
gaurav        yes, i am buying full container
Forest        but different models
gaurav        yes
Forest        what if the second model is expensive?
gaurav        lets explore first
Forest        ok, wait some time, i ll ask my boss
gaurav        ok

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Forest        sir, i am very sorry, my boss said we dont have the second model
gaurav        ok, it is not your factory model ?
gaurav        if you are a factory, i am sure you can make it...right ?
Forest        right, if we produce, it would be a big cost, everything will be new
Forest        and for the first model, we are producing in large number, so it cheap
Forest        and for the second, we have to buy new materials and start a big project, its price would be high. i am afraid you would not accept
gaurav        ok, we can accept US$ 360
gaurav        max, FOB
Forest        Fob is not ok, 360 is ex-factory
gaurav        with accessories like : 04 cues, one set of good balls, one brush, one trianle, cover, chalks & tips
gaurav        if you can do 360, we will accept
Forest        i am sorry, my boss would kill me
gaurav        because it's first order our expenses are more, i will have to travel all the way to your factory to check quality
gaurav        u said FOB 360 with 3 cues, i just increase 1 cue, 1 cue is not US$ 10
Forest        and also cover
gaurav        cover & cue is not US$ 10
Forest        cover is expensive, more than 10 usd
gaurav        no
Forest        come on, Mr,the exchange rate of RMB is decreasing
gaurav        i know
Forest        if you delay, the price will change too
gaurav        but my budget does not allow me more than 360. i will place order by the end of this month
Forest        well, sir, lets calculate again
gaurav        pls do ur work
Forest        Fob 360, not acceptable, too low
gaurav        oh, my friend, i am really sorry
Forest        well, sir we are already too low
gaurav        if you accept FOB 360, i am ready, you must understand, first order we have to travel to china
Forest        well, shall we pay for your travel?
gaurav        no no, i pay myself but that's expenses for me....right ?
gaurav        so i can not accept any thing more than 360
Forest        if 360, no cover and only three cues
gaurav        my friend cover is not US$ 10, trust me
Forest        Sir, my first order is important, but i cant lose money
Forest        if i lose, i wont do business
gaurav        yes, sure
Forest        whats more, 370 doesnt include the cost of shiiping
Forest        if you use our forwarder, we will discuss about the shiiping cost
gaurav        listen carefully, i can place order @ 360, 20' FOB
gaura        shipping, i will pay
Forest        ok, but our forwarder
gaurav        how much time you need to deliver ?
Forest        to which port
gaurav        ningbo
Forest        we will finish the tables in 20 days after the deposit, maybe 15 days
Forest        and shipping may need some days
gaurav        i know
Forest        to which port?
gaurav        ICD TKD New DElhi, via nava sheva port
Forest        so long a name, a port?
gaurav        final destination is : ICD New Delhi, India
gaurav        Comes via port : nava sheva
Forest        i see
gaurav        please mail me your factory's name, complete address, contact person's name & numbers

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Forest        ok
gaurav        i'll be back in one hour, bye
Forest        NB Billiard tables Co. Ltd, Zhongong Miao Street, Yinzhou, Ningbo China.Contact person, Forest Xu
Forest        370，FOB Ningbo, You won't find a lower price than this

Forest        well Mr Sikka, we think, 30% deposit and 70 balance on fax of BL is a big risk
Forest        we prefer 50% deposit and balance before shipping, we can use your forwarder.
Forest        for this condition, we can accept 360 as FOB price.

gaurav        hi forest, i want to ask you this question
Forest        ok
gaurav        why you change your terms every time
Forest        well, sir, u change too
gaurav        30% advance deposit & 70% on fax copy of BL is standard terms in china, all factories, when did i change, pls
Forest        we are first time, i dont want any risk
gaurav        same risk is for me also, friend, no buyer will pay 30% & not pay more, if goods are good, why you fear
Forest        I heard many buyer dont pay the rest money when goods arrived
gaurav        i do not want to loose my 30%, pls trust us, we are here to make money not loose
Forest        but buyers can threaten to pay less
gaurav        this is not business, we are businessmen not cheaters
Forest        well, sir i can feel you r a kind man, but my boss dont wanna take any risk
Forest        U can come to visit our factory
gaurav        i can pay 50%, balance on fax copy of Bl, now you guys decide
Forest        50% deposit?
gaurav        yes, advance deposit.  you want to do business or not
Forest        sure, I want. 50% in advance, but use our forwarder
gaurav        yes
Forest        and the shipping cost is 800 usd to your port
gaurav        ok, shipping cost every buyer pays, why are you so worried ?
Forest        370,
gaurav        i think you don't want to do business with me, ur first buyer
Forest        no sir
gaurav        take it or break it offer
gaurav        50% advance deposit / 50% on fax copy of BL. use ur forwarder
Forest        ok, then 365
gaurav        360, my request. all agree all ur terms, mostly
gaurav        simple, take it or break it offer
Forest        ok, sir, but 50%+800 usd in advance
gaurav        why are you behaving like this? forget shipping cost. we will pay on arrival
Forest        sir, u r try to save, why cant i
gaurav        we buy from china regularly. you don't know much about billiards
gaurav        you know about 6811 cloth ? billiard cloth
Forest        pay on arrival?
Forest        u mean ur forwarder?
gaurav        listen, there are two ways of paying freight....ok ?  one is called pre – paid. other is called pay on arrival
Forest        ok pay on arrival, but pay me, not the forwarder
gaurav        depending upon the freight cost, we will decide at the time of shipping, if we want pre pay or pay on arrival. which ever is better deal at the time of shipping, simple
gaurav        we are businessmen, not cheats
Forest        well, sir, i know. we are negotiating
gaurav        yes, i appreciate that
gaurav        we pay u in advance, take delivery only wen we pay u 100%
gaurav        360 US$ per table FOB, pay ur personal a/c,  ur boss personal a/c
gaurav        ok, i can give you one more deal
Forest        one more deal?
gaurav        would you like to consider ?
Forest        sure i will
gaurav        take 20% advance deposit, 50% before shipping & 30% upon fax copy of BL
gaurav        suits u ?
Forest        u change again?
gaurav        no, not changing, just asking if it suits u
Forest        i am afraid not
gaurav        i m ok with 50% advance, 50% on fax copy of BL
gaurav        i m ok with 50% + 50%
Forest        i am still a little confused about the shipping cost payment
Forest        do you mean you would pay me the cost after arrival?
gaurav        wats ur idea about the shipping cost payment ?
Forest        well, i must pay the forwarder in advance, 800 usd, and how are you going to pay?
gaurav        i will pay with the balance 50% ok ? but my idea is shipping will be more than 800 US$
Forest        well, let me make sure
gaurav        you must find till ICD TKD New Delhi
Forest        till ICD TKD New Delhi?  why not port?
gaurav        yes, final destination, port is 2000 miles away from me
Forest        well, i must check again
gaurav        yes, i am a fair man, don't want u to loose either

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Forest        well sir, we can only send the products to the port
Forest        u can find another forwarder in India
gaurav        it's difficult to explain u, all shipping companies do it
gaurav        thousands of containers come each day
Forest        no, our forwarder cant
gaurav        can not believe it ?
Forest        our forwarder cant, they said no
gaurav        contact other forwarder
Forest        sorry, sir, we can only send to ur port
gaurav        u don't know, it's not like this
Forest        well, sorry, i asked several, they said no
gaurav        please mail me your company's details
gaurav        first i'll request my friend to check ur factory
gaurav        i know all forwarders can, u ask them ICD TKD New Delhi
gaurav        all forwarders & shipping companies can
Forest        sorry, we cant, its your country
gaurav        don't be stubborn, i m sure 100% out of 100% forwarders do it
Forest        well sir, i am not stubborn, forwarders say no
gaurav        may be you asked wrong, some confusion some where
Forest        all forwarders said they can only send to the port
gaurav        u just call ur forwarder again
Forest        i asked again and again
gaurav        ask him 20' GP ICD TKD New Delhi, India, once again
Forest        well sir, the deal is so difficult
gaurav        no, u don't know some thing, then you are arguing. i can tell u 1000 chinese forwarders who do it every day
Forest        ok, let me ask again
gaurav        they just charge tow truch charges extra, all shipping lines do it. can not believe u at all
Forest        well, sir, they said they can send to the port of Newdelhi
gaurav        i know, you only argue. when u don't know some thing, u shud listen
gaurav        learn to admit mistakes, my friend
Forest        ok, ok, my fault
Forest        well, u said a different port , why did u say two ports
gaurav        i just said ICD TKD New Delhi, via nava sheva, it comes like this only
Forest        Via nava sheva? What does that mean?
gaurav        nava sheva is sea port, from there to New Delhi it comes by truck, understand?
Forest        oh see, we can only send to that port, and u take the goods ur self
gaurav        new delhi is final destination
gaurav        i am importing from china from last more than 10 years
Forest        ok, expert
gaurav        any way, please mail me your company's complete details & contact numbers
gaurav        my friend agent will call you tomorrow
Forest        NB Billiard tables Co. ltd
Forest        Number 0574-88135037
gaurav         cell #
Forest        contact person Xu Ziyu , cel13486000853
gaurav        address & web of ur factory ?
Forest        www.nbbilliards.com
gaurav        address
Forest        Zhongongmiao street, Yinzhou, Ningbo, China
gaurav        this table in bulk u are making for which country ?
Forest        dont know, a trading company ordered
gaurav        ok, i'll repeat order now so no confusion
gaurav        one model pool table
gaurav        wood birch + 25 mm slate
gaurav        wool cloth
Forest        right
Forest        when will u come
gaurav        color of cloth ?
Forest        green
gaurav        all green ?
Forest        yeah
gaurav        no other ? its simple
Forest        what color do u like
gaurav        depends on the paint color on the wood ?
Forest        well, only the same one
gaurav        wat is the paint color on the wood ?
Forest        coffee
gaurav        u mean brown ?
Forest        yeah
gaurav        i think i can take some green & some blue, wats ur idea
Forest        well, ask my boss
gaurav        ok, pls do, also ask if he can do walnut color paint for me
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Forest        well sir, cloth can be blue, but paint cant
gaurav        ok, now further. cushion rails are wood with K - 66 rubbers as you showed in the picture ....right ?
Forest        the picture is so?
gaurav        yes
Forest        ok, if the picture says so, its ok, the pictures is our products
gaurav        i think you must confirm, pls confirm from ur engineer, i want no confusion later
Forest        which part is cushion rail? show me
gaurav        top part of the table
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Forest        yes, it is, my boss said yes
gaurav        ok, all clear, any confusion, please ask me ?
gaurav        360 FOB + shipping on actual cost, right ?
Forest        the price will change with the exchange rate, you'd better order soon, nobody knows how the RMB goes
gaurav        see my friend, once we sign the PI, it has to be final price valid for 15 - 20 days
gaurav         i want to order really soon
gaurav        but we have to seal it, once deposit reaches you
Forest        ok, no problem
gaurav        thx
gaurav        i just mail my friend to contact you asap
Forest        ok
gaurav        one suggesstion for u
gaurav        never presume any thing, always explore
gaurav        no one is perfect
Forest        ok,thanks
gaurav         ur new to business, must learn this
Forest        yes, i am learning a lot from you. we can do business long term
Forest        well my forwarder said the shipping cost maybe 1927usd
Gaurav         watever, it is on actual
Forest        sir, u r my first order, very pleased we can reach final agreement. hope to see you soon personally
gaurav        ok
Forest        why do u work on sunday
gaurav        b'coz it's my work, i m the boss, boss works 24 x 7
Forest        oh, great, u r boss
gaurav        yes, my friend
gaurav        you know about 6811 cloth from UK
Forest        sorry, dont know
gaurav        we are their distributors in India, it's very prestigious to be their agent in billiard industry
Forest        oh, no wonder, u asked so many tables
gaurav        i started this company on my own
Forest        u must have many employees
gaurav        not too many, just @ 50
gaurav        how much is the playing surface of the table in inches ? pls convert & tell me
gaurav        it's 8' size right ?
Forest        i am calculating
gaurav        ok
Forest        258cm*143cm*85cm
gaurav        yes, but this must be over all area not play area
Forest        right
gaurav        i want to know play area
Forest        play area? i dont know
gaurav        the table size is 8' right ?
Forest        right, 8'
gaurav        play area?
Forest        and they are measuring
gaurav        ok
Forest        by the way, which factory do u contact before
gaurav        many of them, mostly near Hong Kong
Forest        ever been to Ningbo?
gaurav        no, just places close to HK, guangzhou, shenzhen, taishan, maxau, HK
Forest        well, Ningbo is a nice coastal city, wlecome to ningbo
gaurav        i think ningbo is hill area, beautiful
Forest        a few hills, but many rivers, beautiful
gaurav        ok
Forest        when u come, i will show u around, but we can only take bus
gaurav        i have seen pearl river, its very beautiful
Forest        pearl river is in Guangdong
gaurav        yes
gaurav        you have metro rail system in ur city ?
Forest        not yet, but under construction

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哇，这么长啊，加油啊

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LZ对自己的产品也太不了解啦，呵呵

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新手，没办法啊，嘿嘿

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此单已成,恭喜楼主!

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还早呢，后面你就知道了，一波三折啊

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呵呵  GOOD LUCK

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LZ,虽然这个客户很精明，但是看出来对方真的很大度，帮助你很多，也很有耐心，你真的要好好服务于这个客户，很好的客户。

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如楼上所言，这确实是一个很大的客户，我对其也是真正相待，只是不知道他如果知道我是SOHO会怎么想？

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gaurav        ok
gaurav        ha ha
gaurav        very nice
gaurav        food etc ?
gaurav        how is it
Forest        Ningbo’s sea food is famous, but expensive
gaurav        for people who don't eat non vegetarian food ?
Forest        hahahaha
gaurav        nothin to eat for non vegetarians...ha ha
Forest        in fact i dont like sea food
gaurav        can you tell me , how far is mount kailash from Ningbo, you know mount kailash ?  in China
Forest        mount kailash?  dont know
Forest        well the size comes, 2.3*1.15
gaurav        2.13 1.15 m ?
Forest        yes, metres. is that ok?
gaurav        it's 46" x 92" i think, pls calculate
Forest        i dont know about inches, i just know meters
gaurav        The 6,638 meters high Mt. Kailash is the main peak of the splendid Gangdise Mountain
Forest        Gangdise? where is it
gaurav        he he, i don't know, so ask u
Forest        which country
gaurav        ha ha, China
Forest        China? never heard of that
gaurav        oh, Mt. Kailash or Mt. Kailas (Tibetan: Gang Tise or Gang Rinproche; Chinese: Gangdisi Shan) is a striking peak in the Himalayan mountains of western Tibet.
Forest        do u have childeren?
gaurav        not married yet
Forest        oh, i have a daughter, 3 years old very lovely
gaurav        ha ha, i am sure, children are always lovely
gaurav        where is western tibet ?  close to ningbo ?
Forest        western Tibet? very far
gaurav        ohhh
Forest        never got there
gaurav        mount kailash is our most sacred place
Forest        oh
gaurav        of Hindus
Forest        oh
gaurav        and its in china
gaurav        ha ha
Forest        haha, its a big question, lets forget it
gaurav        yes
Forest        how long have u been in this industry
gaurav        15 yrs, we are one of the biggest billiard company in India
Forest        oh great
Forest        oh, u must be very experienced
gaurav        little experienced
Forest        hope u buy many of our tables later
gaurav        if quality is good, sure
Forest        no problem of quality
Forest        well, sir, I heard sth interesting
Forest        the text book of middle school said Indian people say yes by shaking their heads and no by nodding head. right?
Forest        we are quite opposite
Forest        customs are really interesting好精彩的对话。不过觉得作为业务员真的要对自己的产品很熟悉才好。

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gaurav        yes， ha ha, you being a teacher know a little
Forest        when u say yes to me, will u shake your head?
gaurav        yes, we say by nodding head, no by shaking head. it's simple
gaurav        one - two things about china, i do not like as a buyer
gaurav        one, language, Chinese people must learn better English
gaurav        two, have internation food
gaurav        three, better customer service
gaurav        i have writen to my friend, hope he gets in touch with u soon
Forest        ok
gaurav        i will introduce more buyers to u also, soon
Forest        that would be great
gaurav        , bye for now
Forest        bye
……
gaurav        u there?
Forest        hi
gaurav        zhang yong he , my Chinese friend will call you or msn you for more details
Forest        ur friend called me just now
gaurav        ok
Forest        will he come over here?
gaurav        yes, to check ur factory, he is a chinese
Forest        ok
gaurav        so he can speak to you well
Forest        good, when does he come
gaurav        if he gives me a green signal, i will pay you imd
gaurav        you can be in touch with him over the phone
Forest        no problem
gaurav        thx again, he will act as my quality checking agent
Forest        no problem sir
gaurav        to ensure your factory deliver what they say
Forest        where is ur friend
gaurav        i am not too sure, but he tells me 8 hours away from ur place
Forest        8 hours?, thats a long distance
gaurav        yes
Forest        how much will u pay him
gaurav        commission, not too much
Forest        why not save the money
gaurav        how ?
Forest        give it to me, i will be ur quality agent, hahahaha
gaurav        you are just a new comer, you do not know much about pool game
gaurav        so, not possible, ha ha
Forest        hahaha, a joke
gaurav        wen u learn, yes
Forest        u know we have many buyers, most of them are trading company.  they are ordering our tables everday, why?
gaurav        why
Forest        because of our high quality
gaurav        i know. i always hear ningbo quality is not too good
Forest        i told u our factory is in hangzhou
gaurav        ok
Forest        in fact the price that we give u is the same as we give trading company
gaurav        so ?
Forest        In ningbo there is only one factory of billiard tables, and they are expensive
gaurav        xx billiards ?
Forest        no, xx is in another city
gaurav        ok
Forest        http://www.xxxxx.com/, look at this, its a manufacturer in Ningbo
Forest        ask them the price, u will know we are ur best choice
gaurav        i do not need to ask any one, i know much about china, your price is good, i know, if quality is good
Forest        well, our quality is aimed at middle and high grade
gaurav        ok
Forest        the only pity is that we didnt have exporting office before
gaurav        ok, you know star ? xing pai?
Forest        sure, they are famous, but very expensive
gaurav        they want us to be their agents in India, but they are very expensive, so we say no
Forest        well, u can be our agent
gaurav        ok
Forest        in fact my boss doesn’t know English, and he is satisfied with the need in china
Forest        so he doesn’t pay much attention to international market
gaurav        ok
Forest        and i am a salesman, and i would have commission too, but very little in ur order
gaurav        i know
Forest        i hope u can give me more orders later
gaurav        but you should be happy, you at least got your first order
Forest        and the price can be a little higher
gaurav        ok, i leave now, see you tomorrow morning
Forest        ok
gaurav        may be my an other friend ' Prasad ' also calls you tomorrow morning
Forest        no problem?
gaurav        then, i will decide one agent
Forest        he will come too?
gaurav        no, only one of the two
gaurav        tks, bye
Forest        bye

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EXCELLENT!

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Forest        when u come, i will show u around, but we can only take bus

看到这里我忍不住要回复，楼主你真搞笑，太可爱了。

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快点更新啊楼主，热烈期待中。。。

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Forest        hello, ur friend said you want some photos?
Forest        Sir?
gaurav        yes, my friend
Forest        My boss scolded me moment ago
gaurav        why
Forest        because of this order
gaurav        why
Forest        your friend asked me for some photos and i asked my boss to send me some, but he said i am too troublesome, he said he was busy
gaurav        that's really silly of your boss, he must know how to co-operate with his employees
Forest        luckily my boss's wife told me she would do it
gaurav       
Forest        i have to wait for some time
gaurav        my friend, it's very genuine, b'coz it's first time purchase, every one wants to be careful
Forest        well, i understand
gaurav        don't worry, my friend, it's all part of the game
Forest        maybe my boss felt this order earns him little
gaurav        yes, i understand
Forest        i told him u r a big buyer
Forest        he said nothing
gaurav        yes, trust me, we will co-operate for long term
Forest        ok, i do
Forest        ur friend is also a manufacturer of tables?
gaurav        he was actually working with a factory, till recently, but now, i think he has started his own trading
Forest        oh?
gaurav        but he can not speak english, so he can not get many business
Forest        he can find factories for you
gaurav        no, his job only is to control quality this time, no suggest factories to me
Forest        oh. when will he come
gaurav        after, i pay advance deposit to you
Forest        will he stay here for long? or just pay a visit
gaurav        i think, just pay a visit
Forest        thats ok
Forest        our factory is very far away from downtown, even no hotel around
gaurav        don't know, he will manage to come in the morning & go back later during the day
Forest        ok, i ll meet him
gaurav        thx
gaurav        please send me new PI with your boss account number
Forest        ok
Forest        well, sir, my boss said we have to change the way of payment
gaurav        wats dat now ?
Forest        as you suggested, 20% deposit, 50% before shipping, 30% on the copy
gaurav        ha ha, i told you this b'coz all factories love this way, but remember no change now
Forest        and the cost of shipping comes with 30%
gaurav        yes, no more changes now, sure ?
Forest        ok, deal
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\PI and Pictures\PI India.xls
Forest        Sir, look, the rate of RMB decreased again, please order asap

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gaurav        hi, forest ? u there
Forest        hi
Forest        ur friend called me just now
gaurav        gud morning, how are you, today
Forest        fine, thanks. hope u fine too
gaurav        it's always good to start a day with a greeting
gaurav       
Forest        yes, its nearly lunch in my city
gaurav        i understand
gaurav        forest, my friend, the delay in payment is not from my side
gaurav        once you provide details to my friend & he gives me a green signal, i pay you same day, kindly do it today
Forest        ok, my boss's wife is taking the photos
Forest        ur firend is calling me
gaurav        ok, i am waiting, please do asap, i want to pay you today
gaurav        ok, i c u in one hour, please arrange by then, thx
Forest        ok
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gaurav        prasad, my friend, is calling you, now
Forest        photoes r coming
gaurav        ok
Forest        just a second
gaurav        he want to talk other things also to u
        您尝试发送的文件经检测可能包含潜在的不安全因素，因此未被发送。
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210088.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210089.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210090.JPG
        传输“P9210088.JPG”完成。
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210091.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210092.JPG
        传输“P9210089.JPG”完成。
        传输“P9210090.JPG”完成。
        传输“P9210091.JPG”完成。
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210093.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210095.JPG
        传输“P9210092.JPG”完成。
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210096.JPG
        传输“P9210093.JPG”完成。
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210097.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210098.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210100.JPG
        Forest 发送 D:\我的文档\桌面\Photos\P9210101.JPG
gaurav        can you please send all these pictures to me by mail
gaurav        i'll forward to my friends
Forest        i send to him, but he is off line
gaurav        these pictures, you showed me, can you pls mail me
gaurav        i will send to my friends, myself
Forest        ok
gaurav        thx
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Forest        sent it
gaurav        thx, i just reply you in some time
gaurav        order is 100 % sure
Forest        asap, the rate is changing
gaurav        i know
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Forest        got it?
gaurav        yes, thx
Forest        ok
Forest        sir, when will u order
Forest        rate decreases again
gaurav        today itself, my friend Prasad is trying to finalize
Forest        but ur friend said he will use cash, how is he paying?
gaurav        whatever ways, he is in china, he knows better
Forest        will he come today?
gaurav        don't know, he knows
Forest        oh my God, we are losing money everyday
Forest        it the rate is under 6.9 tomorrow, we will have to discuss the price again
gaurav        my friend, in export business, it happens, very marginal difference
Forest        well, sir, we never thought of that, we cant lose
gaurav        u just quoted my friend 410 CIF, you already increase 2.5USD
Forest        yes, CIF New deli
gaurav        is it ok ?
Forest        yes,
Forest        i told him, not u
gaurav        ok
Forest        he is not my first buyer
gaurav        ok, thx
Forest        why should i give him so low
gaurav        hmmm
Forest        ur friend doesnt know much about the price of tables
gaurav        he is a professional
Forest        he said another table 500 USD from Yiwu
Forest        impossible
gaurav        wat is yiwu ?  an other factory ?
Forest        another city
gaurav        ok, any ways, i have requested him to sort out today with u sure, so i can pay
Forest        he said only 500 USD. impossible
gaurav        i'll be back in one hour
gaurav        i know, it's impossible
gaurav        any ways, i am just interested in my model, ok ?
Forest        ok
gaurav        bye for now
Forest        bye
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9月27日客户的朋友来看厂，还算满意。

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lz好运，加油~~~

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沾沾喜氣 ！

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（中间跟他的朋友聊，出现分歧，然后冲客户发飙）
Forest        20% today, 50% when finished before shipping, 30% and freight on copy of BL
Forest        sir, if any more change, order cancelled
gaurav        yes
Forest        your order brings me only pains，no profit
gaurav        i have no change, if you think it's only pain, pls forget it
gaurav        you quoted me 350, i did not say any thing
gaurav        so bad to talk to ur buyer like this
Forest        yes, what could u say about 350?
gaurav        then 360, i m not doing any change now
gaurav        i agree 360
Forest        and that’s the costs of shipping to the port and one more cue and cover
gaurav        but to satisfy quality is all buyers right
Forest        u make me disappointed
gaurav        we agree on 360 FOB, ok ?
gaurav        i did not question u
Forest        360 USD, but the rate is changing everyday, i told u
gaurav        but to check ur factory is my right
Forest        sure, u can come, u can come and visit
gaurav        i have not changed any thing
Forest        let us earn some
gaurav        pls earn
Forest        ur friend warned me of your changing frequently
gaurav        ?
Forest        he said u are always changing
gaurav        no, just wanting
gaurav        wat are u saying
Forest        my boss is already fed upith me
gaurav        i m ok with 360 FOB
Forest        360 is the price based on today’s rate, who knows how the rate goes tomorrow
gaurav        listen carefully
Forest        its decreasing everyday
gaurav        listen carefully
gaurav        if rmb decreases, we can pay marginally more, don't panic
gaurav        we understand business, not kids, here
Forest        when we agreed on the price, the rate is 6.73
gaurav        ok
Forest        and today it is under 6.69
gaurav        margian difference...right ? why you & ur boss panic
Forest        we dont want any pains, but profit
gaurav        but, to check quality is buyer's right, we will not force you 360 and will pay u according to exchange rate
gaurav        are you ok now ?
gaurav        but do not want you to use words, like pain, this is business
Forest        ur friend ask me for more photos
Forest        my boss, Oh God
gaurav        forget photos
Forest        sorry sir, lets forget the order, have a good day
gaurav        ur choice, to run away from situation is no solution
gaurav        any ways, ur choice
Forest        byebye

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gaura        if you had to refuse, why wasted my time, strange
Forest        i wasted ur time? where is my time
Forest        sir, you are earning money, but how about us?
Forest        even you place the order, how much can we earn?
gaurav        i told you , i will increase the price, if exchange rate goes down
gaurav        wat else can a buyer say
gaurav        but if you do not want to do
Forest        for this price, i only accept this time, never again
gaurav        it's ur choice
Forest        ok, thanks, other buyers are waiting for us
gaurav        my time is important
Forest        mine too
gaurav        i am sorry to say this, i have dealt with so many china factories but never so bad attitude, thx, any ways
Forest        sorry about my attitude, but understand us
gaurav        wat u want me to do
gaurav        i am a first time buyer, so i need to make sure
gaurav        if you think u earn less, re - consider ur price
gaurav        but to refuse buyer is not good for any sales man
Forest        370 USD and pay 20% today. this 20% will make my boss happy
Forest        he doesn’t want me to bring him any trouble
gaurav        i can agree to pay 360, will also instruct my bank to pay you, but takes 2 - 3 working days for transfer
gaurav        do you know ?
Forest        2-3 days?  who knows what change will appear ?
gaurav        yes, bank transfer takes 2 - 3 days
gaurav        u have no experience about export, wat do i do
gaurav        it's like this every time in every country
gaurav        now, please tell me ur final decision
gaurav        you have to be patient while dealing with a buyer
Forest        ok, i must receive the money in at most three days. if not, dont talk to me any more
gaurav        pls do not speak to me like this, u shud be polite, always, to ur buyers
Forest        ok, sir
gaurav        i will arrange to send you money today
gaurav        next 3 days is ur holidays....right ?
Forest        yes, and Saturday i don’t have time
gaurav        don't have time ?
Forest        i will go to shanghai with my family
gaurav        ok
gaurav        so monday morning, you can check ur bank. my deposit will be there
Forest        and when does ur friend come
gaurav        don't know, in between production he shud come
Forest        tell me in advance when he comes
gaurav        sure
gaurav        but, please wait, i will send you PI
Forest        ok
gaurav        pls sign, stamp & scan copy to me, i have to send to my bank for money transfer

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好！精彩！顶一下。。。。。。。哈哈，可能资料换了一下 ```

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什么意思？不明白

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我挺喜欢打SNOOKER的。

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这个阿三还算好的，我也跟阿三吵过架，后来也下单了

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结果呢？                        还没有谈完么？

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正在整理，敬请期待！

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继续关注中
看看楼主的第一单,哈哈

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好有耐心的客户.我觉得应该好好珍惜.

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Forest        what stamp do you need
gaurav        ur company's rubber stamp & visiting card for my bank
Forest        but the account is personal
gaurav        with ur boss name on the visiting card，do ur boss have visiting card ?
Forest        visiting card? what is it
gaurav        business card, u know business card ?
Forest        i know, why do u need that?
gaurav        i don't, my bank needs it
Forest        strange
gaurav        it's bank requirement for transfer in India
Forest        well, sir, as a sales man, i earn commission, but if you contact my boss later and he will think u r not my buyer, but his. how could i make life?
gaurav        no, i am ur buyer. u are his employee. wat's the problem
gaurav        many many factories i know, in china. no one have problem
gaurav        are you the factory's employee ?
Forest        sure
gaurav        then, wat is the problem? why will ur boss think, i am his buyer not urs
gaurav        and i have no need to speak to ur boss
Forest        well, for each order, only the first salesman who get it will get commission
gaurav        so, it's u...right ?
Forest        yes
gaurav        wats ur boss's number ?  mobile ?
Forest        well sir, he doesnt know any english
gaurav        my friends know Chinese, they can tell him, that we are ur buyer
Forest        ok, i ll write it on the card
gaurav        ok
Forest        please repeat what u need from me
gaurav        i will prepare a new PI, i just want you to sign, stamp & scan mail to me
Forest        ok
gaurav        along with scan copy of ur boss's business card
gaurav        that's all, c u in a while
Forest        well sir, i am afraid i cant send u my boss's card
gaurav        ok, my friend, prasad is calling u, finally, this side or other side
Forest        only when i recieve ur pay will business card be sent to you after receiving ur 20%
gaurav        take it or break it?
gaurav        ok, my friend, prasad will call u & decide, thx for ur time
Forest        i am afraid u will change again, and i will work for nothing
gaurav        no change at all, trust me
Forest        trust you? well sir, make me trust u
gaurav        let's see, if you work for my order good, u get money monday morning
gaurav        depends on wat my friends in china suggest, thx for ur time
Forest        well sir, if you stick to meeting my boss and pay, the price must be 370 USD
gaurav        we can discuss brother, pls do not panic, do good business, we are a long term buyer, not , just today
Forest        i am afraid not, i can only accept ur price once
Forest        370 USD, meet my boss and pay 50%
gaurav        my friend, you are new to selling, we are not new to buy
gaurav        we know , price is different, every time
gaurav        let my friend meet ur boss & we pay you deposit
gaurav        then we buy from you every time
Forest        then 370
gaurav        why so ?
Forest        no other way
gaurav        i m confused ? meet ur boss increase US$ 10
Forest        several days rate will lose money
gaurav        we will compensate if exchange rate goes down. ok ?
Forest        we must exchange as the rate 6.73
gaurav        ok, done. deal
gaurav        ok now
gaurav        ok ?
gaurav        happy ?
Forest        lets calculate the money
gaurav        on d day u receive money
Forest        well, if u meet my boss, u will still pay through bank
gaurav        let my friend, prasad decide for me
Forest        we cant accept that amount of money by cash, which we dont know whether its true or not
gaurav        he will talk to you, we pay as u like, ok ?
Forest        please swear
gaurav        ha ha, trust me, we are genuine buyer
gaurav        you are lucky, thank god, you have a good buyer, so soon
Forest        u must swear about ur words
gaurav        believe me
Forest        pay as i like, swear
gaurav        if i have nothing to loose, i promise i pay as u like, ok ?
Forest        promise is not swear
gaurav        i do not like to swear
gaurav        my promise it equally important
Forest        well, sir how can i trust u
gaurav        i told u, promise, brother, wat else
Forest        what if u break ur promise
gaurav        i will not
Forest        hahahaha
gaurav        u have to trust
Forest        ok, sir, i wont trust u until u swear about what u said
gaurav        ur choice, i don't swear, i believe in god, don't swear
Forest        say: if i break my promise, God will punish me.
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Forest        ok sir
gaurav        don't worry, i m not a fake buyer, a real buyer
Forest        when will ur friend come
gaurav        u can call him & ask him
Forest        ok
Forest        6.73 * 360 * 40 = ?
Forest        deposit 30%
Forest        50% before shipping
Forest        and 20% and freight on Copy of BL
Forest        if u agree, ok. come
gaurav        why u change again brother
Forest        its ur offer, not my change, check PI, ur firend offer so
gaurav        it was 20 + 50 + 30 + freight & insurance
Forest        and PI, i will show to my boss
gaurav        ok, i will agree, if my friend agree
Forest        no sir, its 30+50+20+freight and insurance
gaurav        ok, if my friend agree, i agree too, ok ?
gaurav        but, i need to tell you some thing
Forest        wat
gaurav        you will not continue as a sales person for long
gaurav        u do not have the patience & soft speech
gaurav        do not mind pls, i tell u my experience only
Forest        well sir, thanks for ur advice, i will pay attention to it. but please make win-win business
gaurav        if my friend, agree, i too agree, ok ?
gaurav        it will be win win
Forest        ur friend said u would give him commission of 2%
gaurav        yes, total US$ 500
Forest        how are u going to pay him? 500? so much
gaurav        quality will be his assurance
gaurav        yes, wat to do ?
Forest        he said u would send the money through me?
gaurav        yes, thru u
Forest        when?
gaurav        i will pay same ratio as i pay u, add to table cost
Forest        but what if the bank charge us for drawing cash?
gaurav        i have to pay u any ways, will add his amount also
Forest        that would be a little more than 360
gaurav        i think you can discuss with him, he knows better
Forest        r u going to pay by RMB?
gaurav        US$
Forest        360*6.73/6.69
Forest        the price would be a little higher than 360
Forest        so we only receive RMB
Forest        360*6.7, 2412 yuan
gaurav        ok, as per exchange rate 6.7 right ?
gaurav        ok, you tell my friend, also discuss commission with him
Forest        so tell ur friend we only accept yuan
gaurav        but i can pay in USD only, equivalent to 2412 yuan, ok ?
Forest        ok, 2422.8, sorry, wrong just now
gaurav        360 x 6.7 = 2412
gaurav        then y 2422?
Forest        6.73, not 6.7
gaurav        ok, so 2422 ok ?
Forest        2422.8
gaurav        ha ha, u big calculator
gaurav        ha ha, not want to leave 0.8 yuan also
gaurav        ha ha
Forest        low profit
gaurav        i understand u
gaurav        don't worry, just kidding
Forest        see
gaurav        hope we can buy from u
Forest        hope too, no change any more
gaurav        yes
Forest        my boss would be pleased if u pay the day we meet
gaurav        we meet ?
Forest        ur friend and us
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Forest        HELLO, sir?
Forest        ur friend said yes to 30% deposit
gaurav        ok, i wait for his suggestion
Forest        ur friend said he will come on Monday
gaurav        yes, he told me, he will meet ur boss on Monday & then advice me
Forest        and what about the new PI?
Forest        AND THE NEW PI?
gaurav        i will give u imd
Forest        ok
gaurav        , hope you enjoyed ur festival
Forest        i went to the EXPO with my family
gaurav        shanghai expo ?
Forest        yes, so many visiters, 630000 that day
gaurav        ohhh
Forest        people mountain people sea
gaurav        ha ha
Forest        i talked to your friend this morning
gaurav        ok
Forest        he thought highly of you
gaurav        that's his greatness
Forest        i feel honor to do business with u too
gaurav        i am thankful to the almighty lord, for being so kind to me
Forest        how about ur business
gaurav        it's good
Forest        ur chinese friend said he has some factories, which are high quality
gaurav        prasad ?
Forest        no, chinese friend
gaurav        yes, he knows many billiard factories
Forest        he knows a lot about billiard tables
gaurav        yes, it's important also, he was working him self in one chinese billiard factory
gaurav        in fact i also know some Taiwan companies but good quality
Forest        sometimes i feel embarrassed as a beginner, i know almost nothing
gaurav        i know
Forest        Mr Sikka, could you please tell me where you found our company information?
gaurav        don't remember, must be on the internet
Forest        i am trying to find buyers but i dont know how to advertise our products
gaurav        may be advertise on ali baba or google
Forest        what do you think of trade india? the girl of trade india call me nearly everyday
Forest        but i dont know whats the effect
gaurav        who girl
Forest        Indian girl from trade india, a B2B web
gaurav        no, i don't think so, it's not good idea
gaurav        first concentrate on us & europe
gaurav        they are big markets
gaurav        western countries
Forest        on you? u r not india?
gaurav        i am obviously
gaurav        i just give you, my opinion
gaurav        rest, your choice
Forest        ok
gaurav        so, finally you r meeting my friend, tomrow ?
Forest        oh yes, my boss promised to meet him
gaurav        ok, i hope we can order to your factory tomrow
Forest        we hope too
gaurav        thx, bye
Forest        8
gaurav        88
Forest        886
gaurav        ha ha, don't know so much
Forest        u know about 886?
gaurav        no, don't know
Forest        886 means bye for now
gaurav        ok, 886
Forest        and 8 pronounces the same as bye in chinese
gaurav        ok, thx
Forest        now 886

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gaurav        gud morning
Forest        gud morning Mr Sikka
gaurav        my friend tell me about your factory yesterday
Forest        whats his suggestion
gaurav        he said the factory is small but product is good
Forest        right, we r small
gaurav        but frankly, there is a difficulty
Forest        what
gaurav        the cabinet is assembled, then can load only 25 pieces in 20'
gaurav        freight is very high these days
gaurav        please ask your boss can he make good un - assembled packing for the cabinet also ?
Forest        cabinet? whats that?
gaurav        under frame, you have this big packing....right
Forest        yes, but even if the cabinet is unassembled, its still big
gaurav        can you pack the same as totally knocked down to save space
Forest        totally knocked down?
gaurav        yes, all un - assembled
gaurav        if the cabinet is un assembled the 20' can take easilly 40 - 45 pcs
Forest        who assemble it?
gaurav        we our selves
Forest        ok, i ll talk to my boss
gaurav        ok
Forest        but before that, r u really going to order?
gaurav        you think i am wasting my time ?
gaurav        my friend is so free to come to chat with you
Forest        no, but i am afraid u will change again
gaurav        what change again
Forest        ok, forget it, let me ask my boss
gaurav        u don't know a crab of ur work, not my fault
gaurav        u said earlier 40 pcs now u say 25
gaurav        then u say i change
gaurav        are u in ur senses
Forest        ok, sir, my fault
gaurav        thx. do business like business, not do favor on me
Forest        in fact, my boss told me the container can hold 40 tables
gaurav        so, now, why u say, i change ?
Forest        ok, i am sorry, forget it
Forest        lets go on with our business
Forest        wait a moment, i ll ask my boss
gaurav        ok
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Forest        sir?
gaurav        yes
Forest        My boss said the packing box has been made, and the space of the box can be completely used. even unassembled parts cant save more space.
Forest        whats ur suggestion
gaurav        i did not understand
gaurav        my question to you is can we get cabinet also un - assembled ?
gaurav        it will save space
gaurav        un - assembled packing
Forest        i mean the same. even the cabinet is un-assembled, it wont save more space
gaurav        all factories do un - assemble packing to save space
gaurav        then it can load at least 40 tables
gaurav        my friend, freight is @ US$ 2000, just for 25 tables, is too high
gaurav        i hope you understand
Forest        u can use a 40HQ container, it can contain 50 tables
gaurav        it's same, it's @ 4000 US$
Forest        4000? not so much, my forwarder said only 2750
gaurav        really ?
Forest        yes
gaurav        ok, let me check
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Forest        sir?
gaurav        yes
gaurav        40' normal or HC ?
Forest        not sure
gaurav        50 tables need 40' normal or HC? i enquire from my forwarder
Forest        i think normal, is there any difference
gaurav        yes
Forest        let me ask Prasad
gaurav        ok
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Forest        Sir, Prasad said its HC
gaurav        ok
Forest        my forwarder said 2750 is for a HC
gaurav        ok, till ICD New Delhi ....right ?
Forest        let me make sure
gaurav        yes
Forest        ICD New Delhi is New Delhi?
gaurav        yes
Forest        then yes
gaurav        sounds good
gaurav        ok, we take 40'
Forest        great
gaurav        send PI
Forest        ok
Forest        well, sir, r u going to pay to my personal bank account?
gaurav        pls speak to prasad about it
Forest        he pays?
gaurav        no, but he suggests me how to pay, i will do as he says
Forest        ok, what information do you need in the PI?
gaurav        name of the company, address, telephone, fax, website etc
gaurav        government registration number
gaurav        item details & price
gaurav        bank details
Forest        ok, wait
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Forest        Mr Sikka?
Forest        the new PI is ready
gaurav        gud morning
gaurav        yes, i got your PI today
Forest        is that ok?
gaurav        early next week you will have money in your account
Forest        last evening Mr Prasad suggested u pay him and he give us cash
gaurav        watever is safe n good for both of you
Forest        my boss would be pleased to get cash
gaurav        i do not mind. pls discuss amongst urselves
Forest        I am very happy that my first order is coming
gaurav        as long as there is no legal problem, i do not mind paying u or prasad
Forest        I promise to offer u good quality
gaurav        i then promise you good orders
Forest        very good, thanks
gaurav        discuss payment options with prasad n inform me
gaurav        also one thing i noticed in the PI i want to ask
Forest        ?
gaurav        jsw brand it said ?
Forest        yes, our brand
gaurav        wats that ?
Forest        our brand
gaurav        no, i do not want your brand, instead, i want my brand on it
gaurav        table + carton box
Forest        ur brand?
gaurav        yes, my logo
Forest        on the Packing Box?
gaurav        yes, also on the cabinet of the pool table
Forest        Please give us ur logo?
gaurav        i will show you sample soon
Forest        ok, another problem, sir
gaurav        wat ?
Forest        i think i am a little mistaken about the price
gaurav        ?
Forest        we agreed on 360 USD based on the RMB rate 6.73
gaurav        ok
Forest        but the rate is not 6.73 now
gaurav        wats it ?
Forest        its already 6.6X
gaurav        ok
Forest        and we want RMB
gaurav        we wait a day or two wen it gets 6.73 do not worry
Forest        the Unit price is 2422.8 Yuan, please pay in RMB, OK?
gaurav        listen, prasad will handle this, as a overseas buyer, i can only pay in USD
Forest        if so, the price would be a little higher than 360
gaurav        ok, how much
Forest        i ll calculate
gaurav        ok
Forest        367.09
gaurav        ok
Forest        i am afraid it will be even higher later
gaurav        i'll check n inform you, thx
Forest        look at the link: http://www.usd-cny.com/bankofchina.htm
gaurav        ok, i will check the day i transfer money to you
Forest        and it keeps going down
gaurav        thx, c u soon
……Forest        Mr Sikka?
gaurav        yes
Forest        whats ur decision
gaurav        i have to talk to prasad
Forest        ok, he is offline
Forest        if you pay 30% deposit, its like this: (2422.8*50*0.3)/6.6186
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Forest        Dear Mr Sikka, The next week is our national day festival and I will be off work for seven days. I am sure the RMB rate will decrease much after seven days, maybe 6.5 or 6.4, and if so, you will have to pay much more than 367 USD for our table. U know what to do.

Forest        Dear Mr Sikka, If you dont want to buy our tables, please let me know. My boss asked me again and again. I dont know what i can say to him. Dont just avoid, if u dont buy, let me know.
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Forest        Mr Sikka, whats ur decision?
gaurav        wat do mean, wats my decision
gaurav        i told you many times, i want to buy
Forest        yes, very good
gaurav '        but i have my other jobs also
Forest        oh, i am sorry
gaurav        please don't ask me again n again
gaurav        my friend, please get it once for all
Forest        sorry, very sorry
gaurav        i will buy from you, that too very very soon
gaurav        but just have to work out the payment plan with prasad
gaurav        absolutely no question of not buying
gaurav        i am not here to waste my time
gaurav        pls understand
Forest        ok, thats the best news that i hear today
gaurav        100 %, no question of not buying
gaurav        but please appreciate, i have other jobs also
Forest        hahaha, sorry sir
Forest        i am too impatient, after all this is my first order
gaurav        please do not worry, i promise you, i am buying
gaurav        but will have to wait for two things
gaurav        one, exchange rate to get better; two, till you clarify payment procedure
Forest        rate to get better? i dont think so, the world knows RMB is increasing
gaurav        don't worry, i will manage this
gaurav        you just clarify me payment procedure with Prasad and inform me
Forest        but Prasad said he listens to you
gaurav        i did not come online, so cud not speak to him, was keeping too busy
gaurav        may be you can call him n find out
Forest        u mean u listen to him?
gaurav        no, u ask him my query n inform me
Forest        what query?
gaurav        payment prosedure, how to do
Forest        ok, i ll talk to him
gaurav        ok, thx
Forest        pardon me for my bothering
gaurav        i understand, don't worry
gaurav       
Forest        have a nice day
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gaurav        gud morning forest
gaurav        any news about payment procedure from prasad
Forest        gud morning sir. Prasad wants my suggestion
gaurav        so wats urs ? you do not know much about export payments
gaurav        i think consult some one who knows well. pls suggest me
Forest        yesterday my boss called the bank, but the service girl said we should ask the opening branch bank. Unfortunately, the bank is on holiday. but i am sure the company cant accept USD
gaurav        why
Forest        because we dont have rights of exporting
gaurav        so how we proceed ?
Forest        dont worry my boss will ask again, but we have to wait
gaurav        ok, but then don't blame me for the delay
Forest        ok, Mr Sikka, not ur fault
Forest        if finally, the company acount doesnt work, we have to use personal account
Forest        its the first time we receive usd
gaurav        ok. i have one idea
Forest        what
gaurav        u can request Prasad, he has a few trading companies even in HK
Forest        u mean use his account?
gaurav        yes, prasad has a few trading companies
Forest        thats a good iead
gaurav        yes, you can maybe sell to his trading company, then they export to us
Forest        sorry? confused
gaurav        may be, my idea, i m not very sure, china legal rules
gaurav        u better take prasad suggestions
Forest        he suggested u pay the money to his acount, and then he gives us cash
gaurav        he owns a few trading companies with export righs
gaurav        you guys decide n inform me
Forest        U mean i sell to him and he sell to you?
gaurav        may be
Forest        there will be extra costs
gaurav        if it works like that
gaurav        ohhhh, forget it then
gaurav        u guys decide amongst urselves n inform me
gaurav        take care, enjoy ur holidays
Forest        ok, let me talk to him
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gaurav        prasad is online, speak to him
Forest        he said ur suggestion is impssible
Forest        why dont u talk to him urself
gaurav        i m talking to him to use his trading company
Forest        ok, talk on. and tell me ur decision
gaurav        why can't ur factory have export rights
Forest        if we have the rights, our price would be higher
gaurav        ha ha
gaurav        ok, lets wait n watch
Forest        ok
gaurav        thx, bye
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Forest        Mr Sikka?
gaurav        yes
Forest        Whats the result of ur talk
gaurav        he is checking with his other partner if he can accept my payment
Forest        u dont trust personal bank account?
gaurav        i can
gaurav        but i fail to understand, if you have no export rights, how will you export to me ?
Forest        i use agent trading company
gaurav        are you sure ?
Forest        yes
gaurav        there should be no problem later
gaurav        can you accept US$ in personal account ?
Forest        yes, i can
Forest        in china, personal account can receive less than 50 thousand one year
gaurav        ok, i don't have a problem then
Forest        if we use trading company account, the price should include tax
gaurav        wats that now ? i can pay to ur account
Forest        then when?
gaurav        will not accept any price high
Forest        the price is 2422.8 RMB for each table
gaurav        ok, wat is ur problem
Forest        i am just waiting for the payment
Forest        and if the rate decrease, u will pay more than 360
Forest        The world know the RMB rate is decreasing
gaurav        ok
Forest        pay less now or pay more later? or cancel the order? u decide
gaurav        if u speak like this once more, do not speak to me
Forest        well, sir, i am just explaining the situation to you
gaurav        ok, thx
gaurav        coming week, payment reaches ur account
gaurav        pls do not remind me again
Forest        Ok, Mr Sikka
Forest        i understand your situation, for first time buyer, personal account is not trustable
Forest        Hope ur travel in Singapore is fine
Forest        by the way, send me ur logo, so that we can preapre to print it
Forest        and your new PI
gaurav        ok

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牛X！！不过有个小建议，楼主有些英语其实还可以说得地道一点。。

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原以为这个阿三会给我下第一单，可他迟迟不下蛋，结果一个南非客户下单了！虽然是小单，可毕竟开始了，soho两个月，接到了银行水单。1000美金。

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你直接给个私人账号不就得了,还搞PAYPAL,看起来多悬啊

算他20个桌子,也要7400美金了

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哥们，你没看完吧？

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你也太急躁点了吧，动不动就cancel the order.

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gaurav        hello
Forest        Good morning Mr Sikka
gaurav        gud morning forest
Forest        I am very pleased to hear from you
gaurav        i have cleared with prasad about the money part
Forest        good
gaurav        i will pay to his personal a/c, he pays u
Forest        no problem, when?
gaurav        about cost in US$ can you please talk to him , now
Forest        ok, thanks for ur efforts
gaurav        i will prepare PI in a while & send to you for sign & stamp
Forest        ok
gaurav        thx, c u soon
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Forest        prasad said we bear the bank charges, its unfair
gaurav        yes, all factories do every where in the world
Forest        how much in all, a lot?
gaurav        no, little, 30 - 40 US$, my guess
Forest        ok, if so little, ok
gaurav        if you want to do export business, it's part of it,
Forest        ok, sir
Forest        lets make it soon. my boss asked me again this morning
gaurav        ok
Forest        please send the PI asap
gaurav        today
Forest        ok
Forest        the rate today is 6.67
gaurav        if i transfer money today, it takes 3 working days to reach you
gaurav        you must know this
Forest        i know
Forest        and the price is 2422.8/6.67+10=373.23
gaurav        yes
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Forest        Mr Sikka, is the PI ready?
gaurav        not now, will send you in 2 - 3 hrs
Forest        ok, i will be away for some moments, c u soon
gaurav        ok, i will take 30 more minutes to send you the PI
gaurav        kindly correct me, if i am wrong ?
Forest        ok
gaurav        play area is 46" x 92"
gaurav        slate is 25 mm
gaurav        rubbers - K - 66
gaurav        cues - 4
gaurav        cover
gaurav        cue holder
gaurav        brush, triangle, tips, chalks etc etc
gaurav        wood is birch
gaurav        color of the table & cloth ?
Forest        green and blue cloth
gaurav        ok, done, green n blue cloth
gaurav        color of wood, i want to choose
Forest        color of wood? i am afraid not
gaurav        why ?
Forest        only one color for wood
gaurav        why
Forest        ok, let me ask my boss
gaurav        ok
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不错

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Forest        well, sir
Forest        my boss said if u choose another color, the price will be different
Forest        so only one color, really sorry
gaurav        i will require 2 - 3 colors
Forest        but the price is only for this color
gaurav        pls can u talk to prasad, i explain him already
Forest        ok
gaurav        i m doing the PI
……gaurav        u speak ?
Forest        yes, talking with prasad
gaurav        ok
gaurav        the address on PI is different than ur website ?
Forest        yes,
gaurav        why ?
Forest        the address on the web is our new address
gaurav        ok
Forest        the PI is the old one
gaurav        ok
Forest        our plant newly moved to the present place. prasad didnt tell u?
gaurav        ok
Forest        play area is 2.3m*1.15m
gaurav        forest, i must get two color wood, it's important for me
gaurav        u ask 500 rmb extra?
Forest        my boss asked
gaurav        is he crazy
Forest        i dont know
gaurav        he has no sense of export market, absolutely
Forest        maybe the cost will go up
gaurav        but i choose color of my choice
Forest        i can do nothing, my boss said so
gaurav        just tell me, can i get color of my choice or no ?
Forest        but we have only one color, if u chose one more, it will cost more
gaurav        no, not choose one more, i want 2 color wood
gaurav        25 each, same price
gaurav        if your boss don't agree, please tell him, we can not order
gaurav        can only incease US$ 5, not a penny more
Forest        let me talk to my boss
gaurav        if he wants my order, take it or refuse us
gaurav        even prasad will order you more tables for himself
gaurav        i introduce u a buyer, but u do not cooperate
gaurav        strange
gaurav        8-|
Forest        calm, please wait
gaurav        ok
Forest        what color do u prefer
gaurav        just two colors
Forest        light brown?
Forest        one is brown and the other is ?
gaurav        don't know, chinese name
Forest        show it to me
gaurav        http://www.xxxxx.com
Forest        Four colors in this page, which two?
gaurav        ok, let me see
gaurav        one teak color, other mahogany
gaurav        is it ok ?
Forest        which picture
gaurav        one is last picture
Forest        the other must be our color?
gaurav        ok, let me show it to my boss
Forest        my boss is out, have to wait
gaurav        ok
Forest        dont keep too much hope
Forest        the price is only for our color
gaurav        i am waiting final reply
Forest        u know the paint mixing is complicated
gaurav        mixed means only one color per table
gaurav        not two colors on one table right ?
Forest        i know, for two colors we have to mix paints for twice
gaurav        so what
Forest        one paint for 25
gaurav        cost is same
Forest        lets wait for final reply
gaurav        ok
Forest        whats the english for the color
gaurav        oak, i think
Forest        my boss will be back after one or two hours, have to wait
gaurav        ok, i m here
Forest        and i will be away for some shopping. c u soon
gaurav        ok
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太精彩了。看了好几天了。继续跟踪

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没有什么兴趣看你们的聊天记录，只想说印度的工程单不好做，价格压的低，他们一般都会去江浙那边买，如果你是珠三角这边的，估计有点困难了

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LZ表现不错啊，不过还是需要继续学习啊。呵呵

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gaurav        any news ?
……

Forest        hi, i am back
Forest        sorry for keep u waiting
Forest        my boss said ur color needs a lot of work
Forest        he will reply tomorrow, its too late now
Forest        well, sir, u know why our price is low this table is for a big order of a trading company. we supply them for you by the way if we have to renew something, the price should be higher if we design and start everything for you, yes, you can choose what ever color you like, but the price would be a different one. please understand us
gaurav        just requested u one extra color
gaurav        not too big an issue, i think
Forest        i know sir. not my question, but my boss
Forest        i would say yes. but my boss...
gaurav        i agree ur payment in personal account
gaurav        i agree the payment ratio
gaurav        i agree price rise
gaurav        i agree buy 40'
gaurav        but you don't even agree one small request
gaurav        wat to say then ?
Forest        well sir, it seems not a small request to my boss
Forest        let me persuade him
Forest        tomorrow, i ll try to persuade him
Forest        but i cant predict the result
gaurav        ok
gaurav        i m waiting to do the PI only for a small reason
Forest        if my boss doesn’t give in, i cant do anything either
gaurav        i understand, but i am ur client, not ur boss client
Forest        i see
gaurav        if you want to do international sales, u must learn to take ' yes ' out of ur boss
gaurav       
gaurav        sales talk
Forest        i know there is a lot i will learn
gaurav        wen u reply finally ?
Forest        tomorrow
gaurav        un - necessary things are getting delayed
Forest        its nearly 11 PM now
gaurav        ok, i prepare PI & mail you today
Forest        o
gaurav        tomrow, if ur boss agree, please sign, stamp & send me scan copy
Forest        ok
gaurav        if ur boss not agree, tell him to forget it, once for all
gaurav        good luck, my friend
gaurav        gud nite
Forest        ok, thanks

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Forest        Mr Sikka, my boss said the lowest price for ur request is: 363*25+397*25=19000usd
Forest        I already tried my best. sorry
Forest        if you dont accept the price, please forget the tables
Forest        he asked extra 500 yuan for each of ur-color tables at first, then i argued with him, he reduced to 300 yuan. then i once more argued with him, he said 200 extra. not a penny less.
Forest        I already did my best, sir. forgive me.

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gaurav        so, forest, you think we shud forget the order
Forest        i sure hope u can accept, but can you?
gaurav        no, not this price rise of US$ 25
gaurav        it's too high
Forest        my boss gave the dead price, no penny less
gaurav        ok, we were so close to finish the deal, pay you
Forest        i already tried my best
gaurav        ok, if we take 2 colors, you will charge US$ 25 on new color tables or all the 50 tables ?
Forest        25, accept or cancel?
gaurav        let me think
Forest        sir, not 25 usd, but 30, 200 RMB / 6.67=30
gaurav        ok
gaurav        forest, i just speak to prasad
gaurav        i will agree to ur one color, but one condition
gaurav        please understand carefully
Forest        what?
gaurav        in the same color as ur's, can you do two shades
gaurav        one little lighter, one darker ?
Forest        let me check with my boss
gaurav        ok
Forest        my boss asked for sample
gaurav        prasad will explain u there
gaurav        pls sign, stamp & send me scan copy of PI after checking it carefully
gaurav        i will forward to my bank
Forest        and something confusing in the PI
gaurav        wat ?
Forest        our cover is not transparent
gaurav        no problem
Forest        silver color, better than transparent, prasad likes it
gaurav        i'll accept
Forest        and only one brush
Forest        not two
gaurav        rail brush or table brush ?
Forest        i dont know, prasad chose one that day
gaurav        ok
gaurav        any other ?
Forest        let me think
Forest        Play Area : 92” x 46” x 32”, is it the same as CM?
gaurav         yes
Forest        ok, no problem now
gaurav        pls make necessary changes in the PI urself
gaurav        sign & stamp
gaurav        then scan mail to me
Forest        and u need scan copy of the PI?
Forest        why scan copy, not fax
gaurav        signed & stamped, then scan
gaurav        my fax not good
gaurav        ha ha
gaurav        machine bad
Forest        we dont have a scanning machine
gaurav        chinese machine
gaurav        ha ha
Forest        Chinese machine? not made by us
gaurav        i know, just joking
gaurav        ha ha
Forest        haha
gaurav        made by HP
Forest        my fax is also HP
gaurav        i have all in one fax, copier, scan n printer
gaurav        print works but scan n fax bad
Forest        haha, the same is mine
Forest        maybe u dont know how to use it
gaurav        no, i use it all my life
gaurav        it's got old so trouble
Forest        oh, i spent much time learning to use it
gaurav        ok
gaurav        can u scan it from a cyber cafe
Forest        ok, i will try
gaurav        thx
Forest        i ll talk to prasad now,886
gaurav        ok, pls do it fast, so i can pay fast
Forest        ok
gaurav        wats news ?
Forest        please wait
gaurav        ok, i m leaving now, c u later
Forest        Mr sikka, the scan copy has been sent to ur email box. Please check

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终于看完了，可以编成小品，USD还真不好挣。我也SOHO，只不过是进口，赚的是人民币。

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Forest        Mr Sikka?  did u receive the copy?
gaurav        yes, thx, will transfer money today
gaurav        takes 3 working days to reach you
gaurav        886
Forest        ok, 886

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看的好过瘾，也学到了很多。第一次看这么真实的谈判过程，学习了。感谢LZ的无私奉献。本来做外贸2年了，最近也想出来SOHO，但是SOHO是不是必须得有自己的产品网站呢，不然怎么让客户了解产品。

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看的好过瘾，也学到了很多。第一次看这么真实的谈判过程，学习了。感谢LZ的无私奉献。本来做外贸2年了，最近也想出来SOHO，但是SOHO是不是必须得有自己的产品网站呢，不然怎么让客户了解产品。

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Forest        Mr Sikka, busy?
gaurav        no, u say       
Forest        did u transfer the payment
gaurav        give papers to my bank tomrow morning
gaurav        pls be a little more patient
gaurav       
Forest        ok, have to wait
gaurav        886
Forest        ur order is no longer my first order now
gaurav        why ?
Forest        a buyer from south Africa ordered before u
gaurav        u got an other export order ?
Forest        yes
gaurav        same table ?
Forest        no, different
gaurav        ok, good, congrats
Forest        thanks
gaurav        u have no export rights, how will you do it
Forest        my forwarder will handle it
gaurav        u got the money from south Africa buyer
Forest        yes
gaurav        good luck, m happy for u
Forest        his price is higher than urs
gaurav        ok, gud       
Forest        u work in the evening? take care
gaurav        thx, 886
Forest        8

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楼主,加油..不断成长.

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不想看人家的聊天记录就没有发言权，楼主本来就是浙江杭州的，跟珠三角有什么关系。鄙视

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Thanks for the live negotiation!
Hope you can still get the order from the Indian 3, and update it here.LZ好强啊,让我等从中获益不少

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很不错，值得借鉴。。。。

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恭喜lz..

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向楼主学习 学习。。。

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Forest        Dear Mr Sikka, I am sorry to inform you that a buyer from Pakistan ordered the same table of ur kind. The materials we have prepared are only enough for his order. and for ur order, we have to buy new materials. Unfortunately, the materials' price is much higher than one month ago. so we will have to talk about your price again. We are very sorry. 363 wont do.
……

Forest        Mr Sikka? did u see my message
gaurav sikka        yes
Forest        what do u think?
gaurav        And i do not want to comment on it
gaurav        my price remains same, if you accept order, gud. other wise i forget this order, not interested
Forest        r u serious about the tables?
gaurav        no, i am not serious about the tables, just have free time to loose talking about tables with you
Forest         Pls forget the order then.
gaurav        as you like, thx
Forest        hope to do business together later
gaurav         no
Forest        ok, up to you
gaurav         never do business with you
Forest        u r angry?
gaurav        obviously
gaurav        i was travelling last 2 days
gaurav        wen i reach back, i see ur message
gaurav        i already tell my bank to make payment
Forest        Oh? i thought u dont want the order
gaurav        but now i have to stop them, loose money, this is so un - professional
Forest        u kow what? my boss scolded me once more. what can i do?
gaurav         listen, i am really busy
gaurav        if you want order tell me with in today
gaurav        or i call my bank to stop payment
gaurav        thx very much
Forest        sure i want, but my boss want it come sooner
Forest        you know the materials were prepared last month
gaurav        forest, my friend, pls listen to me carefully
gaurav        fortunately or unfortunately, i have a big business to take care
gaurav        and i am only boss
gaurav        so keep busy
Forest        i see
gaurav        also to keep my dead line, it's difficult
gaurav        so at times, little delay
gaurav        but, i am a man of my words, if say i buy, i really mean it
gaurav        trust me
gaurav        but i am alone boss, so please understand my situation
Forest        well, sir i understand and am willing to wait, but my boss asked me again and again
gaurav        no, not wait now
gaurav        i m paying
Forest        ok, thats good
gaurav        but pls don't say always forget order etc, it irritates me
Forest        well, i really dont like pushing, my boss pushes me
gaurav        thx, u see my money this week sure
gaurav        handle ur boss,        thx, u soon
Forest        i am new, i feel difficult to handle him
Gaurav        u'll learn this way
Forest        ok, i ll tell my boss, he would be happy
gaurav        886
Forest        8

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Hey, forest you are so lucky to have this customer. He is patient & tolerant to you. And you should not eat your words by selling the products to pakistan customer without informing your indian customer. So try to keep the same price to the indian customer from your boss and get the order done. May god bless you and the Nation of China.

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楼主厉害，辞掉公职做SOHO,有这么快开单，佩服强人

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Forest        Mr Sikka, did u pay?
gaurav        yes, the bank made payment today to prasad account
gaurav        he gets friday or monday morning
gaurav        pls keep quality good
Forest        today?
gaurav        you want logo ?
Forest        i have it
gaurav        yes, the tt transfer got thru today
gaurav        ok, thx
……

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Forest        paid?
gaurav        yes, today
Forest        told prasad?
gaurav        no, he will come to know from his bank
Forest        could u please fax me the receipt
gaurav        tomrow
Forest        ok
Forest        let me tell Prasad
……

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gaurav        hello
Forest        hi
gaurav        pls scan send me a copy of PI once again
Forest        once again?
gaurav        the last copy is very poor quality
gaurav        can not take print
gaurav        pls scan n send later
gaurav        thx
gaurav        8
Forest        Mr Sikka, u drive me nuts
Forest        The RMB Rate today is 6.63, so the price of the table is 360*6.73/6.63=365.4 usd
Forest        the total paypment is 18271.493 USD
Forest        if u accept, ok, we'll continue
Forest        my boss is fed up with your changes
Forest        thx
Forest        The Pakistani buyer will come to visit our factory next week.
Forest        if you dont have money, dont waste my time.

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gaurav        forest, you lousy fellow
gaurav        how dare you use such language
gaurav        i warn you, never try to use such language, you lousy fellow
gaurav        loser
gaurav        how dare you
gaurav        you should be ashamed to talk to your buyer like this
Forest        Mr Sikka, please forget the tables
Forest        u wasted my time.886
Forest        thx
gaurav        i refuse to even talk to you ever
gaurav        886
Forest        see u never

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哎，真难啊。。。这种客户真是垃圾

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LZ到最后那样说就不对了  聊了这么长时间了  即使没做成买卖  但至少也算脸熟吧  对普通朋友也不该这么说呀~~~

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唉，，看到最后，对楼主很是失望！

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也为阿三感到难过。。。。。。。 唉，真的只能说，气场不对，生意也做不成的..

要修炼融合各种气场的技能啊~~~~~

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唉，真的只能说，气场不对，生意也做不成的..

要修炼融合各种气场的技能啊~~~~~

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Forest        Mr Sikka, I am sorry for my bad words yesterday
Forest        Please forgive me
gaurav        wat do i say
gaurav        in business, one can not be so rude
Forest        I am really sorry
gaurav        my friend, every one has some limitations
gaurav        my limitation is, i m the boss and have to take care of business
gaurav        so, at times, things get delayed
gaurav        it's my limitation
Forest        I should have unsertood you
gaurav        more ever it's my marriage on the 18th November, i m busy these also
gaurav        imagine, i hardly get time for my marriage preparations also
gaurav        trust me
Forest        your marriage?
gaurav        yes, i m single still
Forest        congratulations, nice
gaurav        for next 30 days please do not misunderstand me
Forest        ok, never again
gaurav        i have no intentions to waste ur time
gaurav        and, by the grace of god we are big buyers, this is just a small order
gaurav        so money is not a problem
Forest        thats good
gaurav        please bear with me
Forest        ok, i will persuade my boss
gaurav        my friend, i already transfer to prasad, he will pay you soon
Forest        really?
gaurav        thx for undersrtanding
gaurav        yes, really
Forest        the best news to me
gaurav        would you imagine, i have buyers, who took as long as 4 yrs to buy from me
gaurav        but, i always patient
gaurav        this is business
Forest        4 years?
gaurav        yes
Forest        i am really a greenhand
gaurav        any ways, i have already informed Prasad, that i have paid him
gaurav        he will pay u next week
gaurav        ths for ur time
gaurav        886
Forest        ok, good, we will produce the moment we receive ur pay
gaurav        i m sure, thx
Forest        ok, 8
gaurav        8

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LZ确实不够有耐心，现在是买方市场，对客户的态度很重要

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哈哈  又谈回来了  期待LZ到款的那一天~~~

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峰回路转，LZ加油！

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好事总是多磨，印度阿三的朋友，即谈判中屡次提到的 Prasad ，的话给我兜头一盆冷水。

Forest        hi prasad?
prasad        hi
Forest        Mr Sikka said he already paid to you
prasad        no remittance slip
Forest        maybe in one or two days
prasad        no i mean if he send , bank will issue a transmission slip to him
prasad        i ask it, he didnt gave me
prasad        he said yesterday he will give, he hasn’t. still he is bulling you
prasad        if he sent money he will continue asking from me has i got money or not
prasad        so far he never ask from me, he is a cheater
Forest        why is he doing that?
prasad        i have no idea, maybe counting dates until he find money
prasad        ask from him
Forest        ok, let me ask him
Forest        he said he will ask the bank for it, today, 100%
Forest        will i trust him
prasad        forest , will talk something else , i dont like to waste my time on him further
Forest        what if he has really paid?
prasad        then i will pay you
Forest        ok, lets wait

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Forest        Good evening Prasad
Forest        How is your toothpick
prasad        they have send the remittance slip to me, but still money not received
Forest        good
Forest        just a matter of time
prasad        after get the money will start
prasad        yes
Forest        ok, good luck to you
Forest        what about Sikka's remittance slip?
prasad        no i didnt get it
Forest        seems he really cheats
prasad        yes
Forest        What can i do? did i do anything wrong?
prasad        no

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LZ,这么长，看的我蛋疼！

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你看的蛋疼，我谈的蛋更疼啊

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Dear Forest / Prasad !

Please find scan copy of my bank's advice / swift copy for advance deposit of US$ 5500.00 to prasad's account....

You can check your account for the deposit....

Prasad will now take care of the advance deposit to you...

Please make good quality tables...

Please excuse me, you know it's my marriage on the 18th of November this year so i am keeping v v busy...

good day !

gaurav

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LZ,这么长，看的我蛋疼！

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你蛋疼，我蛋不疼了，浑身疼啊

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现在到底是到了还是没到啊？？

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Dear Forest!

Sorry to inform you, the bank has just rejected my payment request...

As per Indian Central Bank Rule payment can not be done to personal account...

Please see what else we can do...??

Any company that we can pay to...

I really can not do any thing in it...i really tried, my bank also forwarded the documents...but later today got rejected...

Please suggest if you have a remedy...

Good Day !

Gaurav
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