加拿大进出口外贸后续-Jack 回邮件了 曝光无道德,素质差的以色列彩妆采购商,大家注意了。



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情况是这样的。



我和号称20年在美国企业(实际没有,后来我的一个美国客人证实,而且他们是以色列人)公司Sofia 两个月前就开始谈一个新产品眼影(目前有的样品是有闪亮效果的,据说中国只有两个工厂有设备可以生产),到现在一直谈的不错。


大约一个月前,Sofia告诉我联系他们公司的Jack,期间我发了很多邮件给Jack并抄送给Sofia.Jack 一直没有回复。所以一直还是在和Sofia联系(请注意,Jack之前从未出现,而且我和Sofia一直谈的很好,Ps,此Jack是采购主管)


6.9号已经和Sofia聊到寄样马上确认订单,因为他一直对这款产品感兴趣。说想看两套色系 有和没有闪亮效果的样品,我说打样全套要$170.建议寄一个无闪亮的颜色放铝盘给她看,这样就不要样品费了。


(PS,打样费这么贵是由于六色一起调制放入铝桶,如果样品打完,剩下的原料就没法用到其他地方。而且此设备接近100万。原料浪费严重)Sofia很满意。他回复:ok I will take my order and I will pay for the samples but tomorrow everything ok


第二天,6.9号Jack突然发来骂人的邮件,而且抄送给他们公司其他的人,这些人之前并没有和我联系,我也没看到过他们的邮箱。但是却没有抄送给Sofia。内容如下:


尼玛,他侮辱中国人,大家看到他说的吗?只是$170样品费啊,人民币1000元,我也没有多收,而且是可以退还的。


Dear
AM
FUCKING INSULTED WHO THE FUCK YOU  THINK YOU DEALING WITH !!! SOME STUPID
COMPANY THAT START THE BUSINESS TODAY OR WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT WHAT $170.00 FOR
2 SAMPLES OF PALATES IS THAT JOKE OR WHAT??????? WITH ALL DUE THE RESPECT
$170.00 IN CHINA LADY IS YOUR ALL MONTH SALARY !! WHAT YOU THINK WE ARE SOME
ROCKIES OR WHAT?? I BEEN IN CHINA 20 TIMES ALREADY FOR YOUR INFORMATION!!!

YOU
FUCKING RUDE BIG TIME LADY !!!  WE ARE DA VINCI COSMETICS WORLDWIDE TRADE MARKED
CORPORATION WITH  20 YEARS EXPERIENCE . NOW I DON’T WANT TO DEAL WITH YOU ANY
MORE YOU LOST IT GOOD BYE!!!   
PAY
PAL MY ASS NOW GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER SUCKER THAT WILL SPEND THAT MONEY
!!!


Best regards
      
Jack Dicaprio
Supervisor
worldwide
Wholesale
department

        JB
Marketing Intl Inc.

这里我附上他们公司的网站和Jack邮箱,希望大家遇到这个公司小心点,后来我接连回了三封邮件并抄送给他们公司其他人。



第一封:



Jack,

Thank you for your response
firstly.

1. You should donot check my email of
old yesterday, I said like below:
It will
cost $170 samples charge if  making the matte.(return $170 after you order
15000pcs) .So I suggest that the shiny and one matte color in  a pan
will be sent for your reference, ok. ? they are all FREE.-----Matte
pan showing like below.
2.  Maybe you have an worse
day, please don't blame others . Hope you have a nice
day.3. My all  month salary is much more
Thank
you again.

第二封:Dear Jack,
Follow last email, It's necessary to explain for
you again. Please kindly check. I said to Sofia before.
New products for Liquid 6 colors
eyeshadow


Advantage:1.      Through all the test in the European Union, FDA and
ISO22716:20072.      the world's most high-end technology (The world only ten sets
of equipment production this, one set in our factory . From the above
into container, General technology is backward ) AND the most high-end powder (Containing 60% pearl powder, Beyond the quality of the many brands of
cosmetics) 3.      Not only eyeshadow ok, Blush, Fix
the makeup powder and so on all is ok.4.The powder could be rugged LOGO,and LOGO could be connect a line on the six colors,It will be
perfect. Packing and quote: 6
colors liquid eyeshadow Size: 15*5*1.2cmColor:follow you wantPacking: color box + Inner box +carton UV,1set/color box,4color box/inner
box,288sts/CTNCBM:37*37*32cm   
23/24KGSFob Ningbo: $2.5/setMOQ:15000 sets Regards!

第三封:


Dear All,

Good night to you.

Kuen


我当时的想法是,无论他是精神正常还是疯了,这样侮辱我们都有必要去回这些邮件。哪怕后来他自己想挽回,这个生意也不做了。后来她们的确回来挽回。之后我和经理以及老板说了这件事。


老板觉得:我们不能跟着疯子去疯。。。。我们要保持我们的风度,我们宜写邮件跟SOFIA去联系,我们绝对不能去回复JACK的邮件。。。。。。如果写邮件给SOFIA,写得漂亮的话,我们就要不提JACK的事情,而只是询问SOFIA对打样费和样品的要求等等的意见。对方大骂我们,显然是疯了,我们还去认真去解释。。。。多多少少有点跟猪打架的意思。。。




经理觉得:这个会让SOFIA怎么看?这样一封带侮辱性的邮件我们竟然一点反应都没有?做生意也要有自己的底线和原则,这样侮辱性的邮件我们还没有当没发生一样。就太没底线了。


最后,介于 Jack抄送给了别人+我已经回复并抄送+Jack是主管+绝对不能任由他们侮辱。我们经理又回了一封邮件如下:




Dear Jack,

I am so surprise! Why you are so excited! It's only
USD170, not USD17,000! The machine to make this liquid eyeshadow is very
special. In China only two factories have this kind of machine. Based on Sofia's
sample requests, we need make new samples. The costs to make new samples are
around RMB1,000 because it will waste much raw material in the sample making
time. So why we charge you USD170. Important, we will return this amount to you
when you place order!

In business area, buyer and seller are both open. I don't
understand why you are so angry. If you can't accept our sample charges, you
can tell us. It's inadvisable to insult a girl before you understand the truth
of the matter.

For your reference: Kuen's annual imcome is more than
USD100,000 because her annual sales volume is near USD10 million. In our city,
the salary of one nanny is not less than USD500. And i been in American 2-3
times per year. I am 15 years foreign trade business experience.

Finally, wish you have a happy day!
  
Thanks and best
regards!



当时经理写完先发给我看一下,然后去她那里。这个客人我跟了两个月,花了很多精力,突然弄成这样心里的确不好受,看完经理写的这些,当时都感动的哭了,觉得虽然碰到这么恶心的客人,以后无视他就好了,碰到好的领导真的很难得。后来这封邮件就发出去了。

这四封邮件(我发的三封,经理的一封)没有任何人回复,后来经理让我晚上单独发封邮件给Sofia,大致内容是:我很伤心为什么Jack这么说之类,感谢她两个月来一直的合作云云。没回。

晚上和另外一个客人说起这个是,她是个非常好的人,她很气愤,(A是她,C是我)和我说了这些:



A:I don't think the are american, they are from israel   because in america people usually very polite much more then in outer counties   believe me))) I used to live in russia and worked with many different countries and nationalities )

C:Most of america are so polite like your said, I never meet that one so crude   I trust you

A: Speak Hebrew!!!! That is their first info))) (她去看了Jack网站)     its their native language )))    the address is in US but its nothing    you also have a bank in US right )

C: I understand

A: My rules ! NEVER WORK WITH PEOPLE FROM ISRAEL     AND ARMENIA !(他们该有多恶心)     You can work with them but if they paying in front  100%

C: Ok, I remember it

A: I am saying they are bad people, they have just different way of life)     don't be upset about it all people are different )     you just should find the way to managed you business with them)

C: Yes, I just feel unimaginable

A : thats life) (真理)

A: when I was 25 i didn't understand it also) but now i just don't care if the person is rough i will be nice     with him  but i will charge him more)     I hate when some one starts talking about nationalities     just hate it     its like hitler,horrible unprofessional and stupid     tell him: everything in made in china ! and we made gun powder glasses great wall and history not you idiot !     and Paper compass     terra-cotta army (她对中国很了解)


C: you known so many about china

A : i can continue this list forever)     Not many but much more than regular person))

很感谢这个客人,让我学到这么多,一点也不在乎什么Jack

6.12下午两点多,也就是今天Sofia回了经理的邮件, 内容如下:

Dear
xxx, My
superviosr does not want to may $170.00 for 6 pieces each unit will
cost.$28.00. Now
as your factory why producing matte shadow pallete will waist of material you
can use that one for other left over for your customer that want
samples. I
am not asking to customize different color shades I now you only offer 3 styles,
the only differentis that I want one matte and one shinny. I
am not one of your customer that want to buy few, I will order I just want to
sale them to my customer if they love them I we will buy
volume. check
my website www.adavinci.com AND
OUR FAN IN FACEBOOKhttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Da-Vinci-Cosmetics/209987392379191
  

彻底寒心,称主管只是不认可170美元云云。一句道歉都没有的。我们一致决定不要再同这家公司联系了。再去联系,就不能算是jack骂人不尊重人了,而我们是犯贱找不痛快了。断了与他们的联系,忘了他们。


这个帖子我想曝光出来,就是想对同行们说如果你们有和他们合作,或者他是你的潜在客人当做重点对象的话,一定要小心。


Jack这样的人说出这样的话竟然还能安然无恙的待在那个所谓的20年的企业,还没有人说他的不字。可想有多恐怖。以上内容全部是原文,


没有弄虚作假。大家一定要引以为戒。希望你们不要受到他们的伤害。


不能这样任由别人欺负!!!


后续

6.12日我用私人邮箱把Jack 的邮件抄送给了他们公司所有人,什么也没说。
6.13号,Jack竟然连续回了三封邮件,内容一样。尼玛,终于道歉了。

Dear Ms. Kuen

I sincerely apologized for the last email you recive . please ignore it . am very professional at my work . and me personally never talking like that ridiculous email you recive, to costumers or vendors.

my email address has been hacked probably by one of our competitor. problem solve already email is secure now .

please continued the transaction with Ms Sofia. she is the one that in charge on this project.

看过上面内容的就知道Jack在找借口。四封邮件第一封他抄送给自己,第二封抄送给他们Boss,第三封又抄送给自己。。。。

[ 本帖最后由 314104素素 于 2014-6-16 09:56 编辑 ]

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一般对于这种智商情商突然缺失的外国人,我会很冷静,然后找出他们国家的优点与缺点,分析好,回复一封充满讽刺味道不带脏字的邮件。

本人表示,屡试不爽,每次都令那些人无疾而终。

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略吊,哈哈。

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奶奶的   楼主 我替你去骂他去  这个人 素质 太低了 keep his dog in his month

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太让人气愤了!!!什么破公司啊!!!以后要学习二楼,展现我们国人的智慧!不带脏字骂回去!!

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是的   是的

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这种心理垃圾还是及早清理出你的心灵会更好,不要留下任何影响今后的垃圾

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无语了   一定要骂回去!!!

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以色列是因为犹太人精明的缘故吗,貌似很多美国人瞧不起以色列

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去他们FACEBOOK上留言,垃圾产品

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谢谢 必须的

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我有很多美国客人都很讨厌他们  素质太差

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看来你也遇到奇葩中的奇葩了,这世界到底咋了?!

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我给这个贱人发邮件了:
Hello Jack,

I learned on the internet that you are so fucking rude to a china sales girl just for the sample charges
USD170. You said you are world famous for cosmetics, how can your company do not have just USD170 in
the pocket.The supplier even assured you they will refund this fee when you place order.

It is very clear you just cheat  the sample and do not want to place any order. China people are not fool. You
are a fucking cheater.

I suggest you Mr JACK should be fired by the world famous company-DA VINCI COSMETICS to protect the company image.  
We never see a department manager like you can speak so many shit. Is your mouth the asshole?

Best regards!

Richard liu
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