加拿大华人论坛 温哥华 Vancouver漫漫长夜: 自由党/NDP议席 43/42交叉领先!说句实话,NDP如果真的上台,这是反民主的。 加拿大可能都没有见过这种情况。
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自由党要哭死了, 领先NDP 2个点,少数党政府还不见到能保住。 最可怕的是,NDP还有多数党政府的可能性。 说句实话,这是反民主的。 加拿大可能都没有见过这种情况:赢得多数人支持,反而输了选举。原以为绿党会分NDP的票,谁知道一点作用都没起。
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垃圾绿党,一点作用没起,害人啊
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大神能给解释一下NDP 当选怎么反民主了?只有LIB当选才算民主?
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blue2003 说:自由党要哭死了, 领先NDP3个点,少数党政府还不见到能保住。 最可怕的是,NDP还有多数党政府的可能性。 说句实话,这是反民主的。 加拿大可能都没有见过这种情况:赢得多数人支持,反而输了选举。原以为绿党会分NDP的票,谁知道一点作用都没起。点击展开...不赞同。这恰好是竞选对选举制度的适应。川普,共和党都是在普选票输,选举人票赢。如果永远是多数人赢(比如城市区),反而是对少数人(比如乡村)不公平。
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teehee123 说:大神能给解释一下NDP 当选怎么反民主了?只有LIB当选才算民主?点击展开...乱收税还不反民主?
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谁决定税收是乱收还是不是乱收?
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smliu 说:谁决定税收是乱收还是不是乱收?点击展开...共产党似的征税还不是乱收税?
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葫芦金刚 说:共产党似的征税还不是乱收税?点击展开...在加拿大是用选票决定的。
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smliu 说:在加拿大是用选票决定的。点击展开...还没完
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blue2003 说:自由党要哭死了, 领先NDP3个点,少数党政府还不见到能保住。 最可怕的是,NDP还有多数党政府的可能性。 说句实话,这是反民主的。 加拿大可能都没有见过这种情况:赢得多数人支持,反而输了选举。原以为绿党会分NDP的票,谁知道一点作用都没起。点击展开...有点儿没看懂,为什么说是反民主的?多数党政府/少数党政府 什么意思?能给科普下不?
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smliu 说:谁决定税收是乱收还是不是乱收?点击展开...独裁的决定
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今年B.C省选的结果,被几票就决定了;比如大温高贵林(Coquitlam-Burke Mountain)选区,就只差几票。导致自由党/NDP议席交叉领先 ,所以不到最后不知道胜负,而且极可能需要重新计票
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葫芦金刚 说:乱收税还不反民主?点击展开...没问你,没水平就别瞎说
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差距不大啊
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葫芦金刚 说:共产党似的征税还不是乱收税?点击展开...共产党又怎么你了,你不是整天急着入籍完投入共产党的怀抱吗!为了能省一年时间你为联邦自由党摇旗呐喊的那个欢实呀。
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hansw 说:有点儿没看懂,为什么说是反民主的?多数党政府/少数党政府 什么意思?能给科普下不?点击展开...他认为票多的反而席位少, 是反民主, 当一个党的席位超过50%的时候, 是多数当执政,当得胜党(席位最多的党)的席位不过半数的时候, 是少数党,
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这次省选我是支持NDP(尽管和我没关系)。看我以前的帖子。这如Sabre所说,票多的反而席位少, 某种程度上是反民主。不管你支持谁,这个得承认。关键问题是,加拿大目前好像还没有出现过普选得票率最高,反而败选的。 不如NDP和绿党联合执政,就合情合理了。大神能给解释一下NDP 当选怎么反民主了?只有LIB当选才算民主?点击展开...
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sabre 说:他认为票多的反而席位少, 是反民主,当一个党的席位超过50%的时候, 是多数当执政,当得胜党(席位最多的党)的席位不过半数的时候, 是少数党,点击展开... 他是认为只有他代表人民,不顺他的是反民主Urban area 几乎都是 NDP, 只有 Richmond 除外
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blue2003 说:这次省选我是支持NDP(尽管和我没关系)。看我以前的帖子。这如Sabre所说,票多的反而席位少, 某种程度上是反民主。不管你支持谁,这个得承认。关键问题是,加拿大目前好像还没有出现过普选得票率最高,反而败选的。 不如NDP和绿党联合指政,就合情合理了。点击展开...我没说反民主, 我说他认为反民主,不敢说票多的败选出现过没有, 但是席位跟选票不对应是经常的现象, 我不反对按选区选, 我也不反对proportional representation,
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按照这个说明:1)现任省长简惠芝有优先权,可先试图联合其它党组成政府。也就是她必须获得绿党的支持才能执政。2)如果绿党拒绝支持自由党,NDP可以联合绿党组成政府http://www.lop.parl.gc.ca/content/lop/ResearchPublications/prb0812-e.htm#forming44. What happens if two parties have an equal number of seats in the Commons?If two parties were tied after an election, the Prime Minister would have to make a decision. The Prime Minister could try to gain the support of other parties – either formally or informally (a coalition government, or an entente; see the next question). If this proved impossible, the Prime Minister could still try to form a government and seek the support of the House. An incumbent Prime Minister appears to be entitled to try to form a government first. If it were clear that no other parties were willing to support the Prime Minister, a difficult constitutional question could arise for the Governor General, although he or she would probably let the Prime Minister attempt to form a government.If the Prime Minister did try to form a government, he or she would need to have new Ministers sworn in. The Prime Minister would then advise the Governor General to recall Parliament and would have a Speech from the Throne. Inevitably, a vote of confidence would arise.If the Prime Minister were defeated in that vote, he or she would have to tender his (her) resignation to the Governor General. The Prime Minister could advise dissolution and a general election, or suggest that the leader of the other party be asked to try to form a government. (The former advice would raise many of the same issues as the King-Byng Affair; see question 9 under “The Governor General.”) Many factors would be relevant to the decision of the Governor General: the numbers of seats of the two parties (and other parties); whether there were formal or informal offers of support to the other party; etc. Likely, if such a situation occurred shortly after an election, and there was a reasonable chance that the other party could form a government and obtain the confidence of the House, the Governor General would invite the leader of that party to form the government.
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