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背景:预付30%,70%即期,深圳,去土耳其。此证是已经改过一次了,客户说银行坚持不给改,这是最大扯蛋的说法,
目前除了付款方式信用证开的扯淡外,,还有:
1,开证行,授证行,议付行为同一银行,还自己给自己保兑,还收保兑费--这又是一扯蛋
2,附加条款里要求我司出具有关船方面的情况的证书,但货贷由客户指定做FOB.的,这是不是又一扯蛋。
3,且我司自己声明如果延期交货预付的保证金退回,先不说能不能接受。楼主,请问信用证里可不可以有这样的规,楼主认为这是合同条款,不应该放在信用证里来。是不是也是扯蛋呢。
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Swift Output 700 Issue of a Documentary Credit
Sender : DENITRIS
DENIZBANK A.S.
Receiver : DENITRIS
DENIZBANK A.S.
27 : Sequence of Total
1/1
40A : Form of Documentary Credit
IRREVOCABLE TRANSFERABLE
20 : Documentary Credit Number
31C : Date of Issue
111216
40E : Applicable Rules
UCP LATEST VERSION
31D : Date and Place of Expiry
120410IN CHINA
50 : Applicant
此处隐去
59 : Beneficiary Customer - Account / Name & Address
引处隐去。
32B : Currency Code, Amount
Currency : USD
Amount : 76130
39A : Percentage Credit Amount Tolerance
5/5
41A : Available With By - BIC
DENITRIS
BY MIXED PYMT
42M : Mixed Payment Details
SEE IN FIELD 47A
43P : Partial Shipments
NOT ALLOWED
43T : Transhipment
NOT ALLOWED
44E : Port of Loading/Airport of Dep.
SHENZHEN-CHINA
44F : Port of Dischrge/Airport of Dest
AMBARLI-ISTANBUL/TURKEY
44C : Latest Date of Shipment
120315
45A : Descriptn of Goods and/or Services
此处隐去。 FOB SHENZHEN CHINA (INCOTERMS 2010)
46A : Documents Required
1) 3 ORIGINALS 3 COPIES COMMERCIAL INVOICES DULLY SIGNED BY
BENEFICIARY INDICATING FOB SHENZHEN CHINA VALUE OF THE GOODS. .
2)3/3 ORIGINALS 3 N/N COPIES FULL SET CLEAN ON BOARD BILL OF
LADING ISSUED OR ENDORSED TO THE ORDER OF DENIZBANK
A.S.UMRANIYE BRANCH, TURKEY INDICATING NOTIFY THE APPLICANT'S
FULL NAME AND ADRESS AND MARKED 'FREIGHT PAYABLE AT
DESTINATION'. .
3) 3 ORIGINALS 3 COPIES WEIGHT LIST .
4) 1ORIGINAL 1 COPY CERTIFICATE OF ORIGIN ISSUED BY CCPIT ATTESTING
THAT GOODS ARE OF CHINA ORIGIN .
5) BENEFICIARY'S DECLARATIONSENT TO BOTH OUR FAX NO:0090-212-3363016 AND OUR E-MAIL
ADRESS''TradeOperationsatdenizbank.com'' AND APPLICANT FAX
NO:0090-2164431957 AT SHIPMENT DATE INDICATING FULL SHIPMENT
DETAILS SUCH AS : a)SHIPMENT DATE b)DESCRIPTION OF GOODS AND
THE VALUE ,THE QUANTITY ,NET, GROSS WEIGHT,VOLUME OF THE GOODS,
NUMBER OF PACKAGES AND DIMENSIONS. c)LOADED DEPARTURE AND THE
DESTINATION PLACES.
FAX REPORT AND E-MAIL PRINTOUT REQUIRED AND MUST SENT WITH
THIS DECLARATION.
6) INSPECTION CERTIFICATE ISSUED BY
CCIQ.
7)BENEFICIARY'S SIGNED DECLARATION STATING THAT THE 30 PCT
OF THIS LC WHICH HAS BEEN PAID AT SIGHT WILL BE PAID IN RETURN
IN CASE OF LATE SHIPMENT .
8)MANUFACTURER'S SIGNED AND STAMPED
DECLARATION STATING THAT THE GOODS DO NOT INCLUDE ANY HARMFUL
CHEMICALS FOR HUMAN HEALTH.
9) QUALITY CONTROL DECLARATION
SIGNED BY REPRESENTATIVE OF buyer
AUTHORIZED SIGNATURE'S OF THE REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE ATTACHED
TO THIS DECLARATION.
10) BENEFICIARY'S DECLARATION STATING THAT
IN CASE OF LATE SHIPMENT ECONOMIC LOSSES WILL BE REFLECTED TO
COMMERCIAL INVOICE ACCORDING TO AGREEMENT BETWEEN BENEFICIARY
AND THE APPLICANT
47A : Additional Conditions
1) ALL DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE SENT TO OUR HEAD OFFICE ADDRESS BY
D.H.L. . DENIZBANK A.S. HEAD OFFICE /CENTRAL OPR. BUYUKDERE
CADDESI.NO:123 SISLI MECIDIYEKOY ISTANBUL TURKEY .
2) ALL
DOCUMENTS MUST BE ISSUED IN ENGLISH. .
3) ALL DOCUMENTS SHOULD
BEAR OUR L/C NO .
4) FOR PRESENTATION OF DISCREPANT DOCUMENTS
UNDER THIS LETTER OF CREDIT A FEE OF USD.105 INCLUDING
CORRESPONDANCE FEE AND BANKING TAX FOR EACH SET OF DOC.S IS FOR
BENEFICIARY'S ACCOUNT IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER DOCUMENTS ARE
FINALLY ACCEPTED OR NOT AND WILL BE DEDUCTED FROM THE PROCEEDS
. 5) AN ADDITIONAL COPY OF ALL DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE SENT
TOGETHER WITH THE DOCUMENTS FOR ISSUING BANK'S RETENTION, WE
WILL DEDUCT USD10,00 FROM PAYMENT IF EXTRA COPY OF ALL
DOCUMENTS ARE NOT PRESENTED. .
6) CHARGES ARE FOR THE
BENEFICIARY WITHOUT RECOURSE TO OURSELVES UCP600 ART 37C IS NOT
APPLICABLE .
7))+/- 5 PCT TOLERANC E IS BOTH ACCEPTABLE FOR
AMOUNT AND QUANTITY
.8) PAYMENT DETAILS: +30 PCT OF INVOICE
VALUE (USD 22,839) WILL BE PAID AT SIGHT AGAINST CREDIT CONFORM
DOCUMENTS +USD 53,291 WILL BE PAID AFTER 90 DAYS FROM SHIPMENT
DATE AGAINST CREDIT CONFORM DOCUMENTS.
71B : Charges
ALL CHARGES AND COMMISSIONS
OUTSIDE OF TURKIYE ARE ACCOUNT
OF
BENEFICIARY
48 : Period for Presentation
10 DAYS AFTER SHIPMENT BUT WITHIN
L/C VALIDITY
49 : Confirmation Instructions
CONFIRM
78 : Instructions to the Paying/Accepting/Negotiating B
IF MATURITY DATE FALLS ON A NON-WORKING DAY, HOLIDAY, SATURDAY
OR SUNDAY IN TURKEY ,IT MUST BE POSTPONE TO THE FOLLOWING
WORKING DAY.
72 : Sender to Receiver Information
ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT
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41A : Available With By - BIC
DENITRIS
BY MIXED PYMT
明明是付款行啊,哪来楼主说的议付行啊。
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9) QUALITY CONTROL DECLARATION
SIGNED BY REPRESENTATIVE OF buyer
AUTHORIZED SIGNATURE'S OF THE REPRESENTATIVE WILL BE ATTACHED
TO THIS DECLARATION.
这条务必删除的。
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48 : Period for Presentation
10 DAYS AFTER SHIPMENT BUT WITHIN
L/C VALIDITY
交单期限过短了点,建议改为21天,毕竟须交单至开证行柜台。
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Sender : DENITRIS
DENIZBANK A.S.
Receiver : DENITRIS
DENIZBANK A.S.
发报行和收报行怎么会是一样的呢? :funk:
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3,且我司自己声明如果延期交货预付的保证金退回,先不说能不能接受。楼主,请问信用证里可不可以有这样的规,楼主认为这是合同条款,不应该放在信用证里来。是不是也是扯蛋呢。
如果合同条款确实如此约定的,LC条款中体现出来也无可厚非啊,把合同要求单据化本来就是应该这样做的。
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2,附加条款里要求我司出具有关船方面的情况的证书,但货贷由客户指定做FOB.的,这是不是又一扯蛋。
装船通知啊,你说的船证我没看到。
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刚才那份土耳其的信用证,那里可以看出交单地点是: 开证行柜台?谢谢!
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这一交单期指装船10天后,而不是装船后10天内。
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10 DAYS AFTER SHIPMENT BUT WITHIN
L/C VALIDITY
额,装运后10天内并且在LC有效期内。
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关于付款,
客户答应确认信用证后30%预付(证外t/t预付,一旦确定信用证后即付),但是坚称银行不同意改,要求按47A最后一条那样写,.8) PAYMENT DETAILS: +30 PCT OF INVOICE
VALUE (USD 22,839) WILL BE PAID AT SIGHT AGAINST CREDIT CONFORM
DOCUMENTS +USD 53,291 WILL BE PAID AFTER 20,DAYS FROM SHIPMENT
DATE AGAINST CREDIT CONFORM DOCUMENTS.
插入句,我们已经协商同意70%发货后20天付。
因此我算是服了加confused。既然都同意30%预付,为何要那样;写30%即期付,70%提单后20天付??。
另外楼主也百度了下denize BANK a.s. 据传汇丰想出30亿欧罗去收购,应该还是可以的银行怎么会这样呢?
验证道 土耳其银行能这样扯淡操作?楼主也了解了下
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不是开证行的问题,是你们开证申请人自身问题,他要求这样开证的呀!
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回元老:
第一次开证时,46A第5项还有个D项(在此项末尾),这次开的证客户那边弄丢了几个字母。原句为
VESSEL NAME AND VESSEL IMO NUMBER FAX REPORT AND E-MAIL PRINTOUT REQUIRED AND MUST SENT WITH THIS DECLARATION.
介于楼主不知道: 是不是每个船公司的船都会有IMO备案,而且也不知道土耳其港当局是不是对某有些靠港船泊有什么限制,所以要求客取消这个。
而且这个FAX report 从哪里获取?楼主不懂,是不是我理解有错,请高人指出。
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嗯,所以我发贴时就说是扯淡,开证申请人是开证行客户,证如何开,是开证申请人说了算。。怎么会银行坚持 这样呢。。。奇怪,
而且我想开证行是按信用证付款金额来收费的,付款金额都没只有五万多,如果按条款的规定,开证行还要按七万多来收费了。。。这不客户还亏了吗?呵呵。。
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嗯,所以我发贴时就说是扯淡,开证申请人是开证行客户,证如何开,是开证申请人说了算。。怎么会银行坚持 这样呢。。。奇怪,
而且我想开证行是按信用证付款金额来收费的,付款金额都没只有五万多,如果按条款的规定,开证行还要按七万多来收费了。。。这不客户还亏了吗?呵呵。。
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